Visits per Day - page 2

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  1. by   nitengale75
    In my school, I do not expect the teacher to make a diagnosis of a health problem. However, I do expect the teacher to know who the frequent fliers are, who the students are who constantly want out of class (I am in a high school) and what is trivial. Trivial examples are picking a scab on the back of a pierced ear, a broken acrylic fingernail, peroxide for piercings, paper cuts, etc. After 16 years, I still love my job as a school nurse but sometimes am still amazed at teachers who send students out of their classrooms for anything and everything. I think that is what LPN 90 was trying to say about training teachers. No one has to worry about my feelings as a school nurse but sometimes I worry about how much education a student is receiving if he/she is constantly in my office. This post was not written to offend anyone but in fairness to all school nurses, I think our skin is thicker than worrying about teachers "worrying about the school nurse's feelings.
  2. by   Teacher2bCRNA
    where exactly will be school nurse be when the parent comes in ranting and raving about little susie not being about to go to the nurse for this or that...even the broken nail. the parent will claim (and will be heard) that...some major infection came because the teacher would not let the child go to the nurse about her silly little nail. yes teacher know who the ff are and what's trival, however no one wants to deal with the ranting of crazy parents or the liability so off to the nurse they go.

    Quote from nitengale75
    in my school, i do not expect the teacher to make a diagnosis of a health problem. however, i do expect the teacher to know who the frequent fliers are, who the students are who constantly want out of class (i am in a high school) and what is trivial. trivial examples are picking a scab on the back of a pierced ear, a broken acrylic fingernail, peroxide for piercings, paper cuts, etc. after 16 years, i still love my job as a school nurse but sometimes am still amazed at teachers who send students out of their classrooms for anything and everything. i think that is what lpn 90 was trying to say about training teachers. no one has to worry about my feelings as a school nurse but sometimes i worry about how much education a student is receiving if he/she is constantly in my office. this post was not written to offend anyone but in fairness to all school nurses, i think our skin is thicker than worrying about teachers "worrying about the school nurse's feelings.
  3. by   zenman
    Quote from teacher2crna
    where exactly will be school nurse be when the parent comes in ranting and raving about little susie not being about to go to the nurse for this or that...even the broken nail. the parent will claim (and will be heard) that...some major infection came because the teacher would not let the child go to the nurse about her silly little nail. yes teacher know who the ff are and what's trival, however no one wants to deal with the ranting of crazy parents or the liability so off to the nurse they go.
    why do teachers write in colors? i'm a school nurse and my teacher wife and i work at the same school. probably 90% of the kids i see don't need to leave the classroom. three day old bruises do not qualify! i hand out ice packs like crazy for psych reasons only and the majority of time the kids are running back out the door before i even finish writing them up. however, i do understand some teacher concern about liability. there has to be education re classroom management, dealing with parents, who to send to the nurse, etc.. rantings of parents are part of the profession are should be dealt with by everyone in the school setting. i have no problem dealing with upset or "crazy parents" and have ripped into some of them, especially one who wanted me to assume the role of parent for her sick kid who had been running high temps for 3 days. i called the hospital and sent her off crying. she thanked me later as her kid had a massive ear infection. i also get many little kids who do not even know what their last name is or how to spell it. kids with hypenated names are really confused! teachers will now be required to fill out a referral form for each kid they send over. i'm wondering if this will slow down the number of kids coming in. in any case, education helps and we even get the counselors involved for ffs.

    school nursing is really funny sometimes. a teacher brings this kid over with complaints of "feeling hot.' my first comment was, "perhaps we should take this fleece jacket off!"
    Last edit by zenman on Jan 20, '07
  4. by   Teacher2bCRNA
    we write in colors because we want to...which has nothing to do with the post. however, if you want to put your certification or licensure on the line for one or two whinning kids, that's you, however my livlihood is far more important than the number of bandaids given out.

    Quote from zenman
    why do teachers write in colors? i'm a school nurse and my teacher wife and i work at the same school. probably 90% of the kids i see don't need to leave the classroom. three day old bruises do not qualify! i hand out ice packs like crazy for psych reasons only and the majority of time the kids are running back out the door before i even finish writing them up. however, i do understand some teacher concern about liability. there has to be education re classroom management, dealing with parents, who to send to the nurse, etc.. rantings of parents are part of the profession are should be dealt with by everyone in the school setting. i have no problem dealing with upset or "crazy parents" and have ripped into some of them, especially one who wanted me to assume the role of parent for her sick kid who had been running high temps for 3 days. i called the hospital and sent her off crying. she thanked me later as her kid had a massive ear infection. i also get many little kids who do not even know what their last name is or how to spell it. kids with hypenated names are really confused! teachers will now be required to fill out a referral form for each kid they send over. i'm wondering if this will slow down the number of kids coming in. in any case, education helps and we even get the counselors involved for ffs.
  5. by   zenman
    Like I said, it's education that needed by all those who deal with kids.
  6. by   Teacher2bCRNA
    procedures or an idea of how to make your day better, not necessarily "education" as you put it.

    Quote from zenman
    like i said, it's education that needed by all those who deal with kids.
  7. by   Keepstanding
    You are "right on" Zenman ! I see clinic abuse each day I work. I know I am there to support education, but come on teachers......use some common sense. The older teachers seem to be better at not sending everyone with a sore freckle...but I notice that the new teachers send everything....from needing a belt (which I don't supply) or a 5 day old bruise that the kid is crying over. Some day's I wonder about our educators.
  8. by   Teacher2bCRNA
    5 day old bruise needs a second opinion for possible child abuse....liability..


    Quote from lpn 90
    or a 5 day old bruise that the kid is crying over. some day's i wonder about our educators.
    Last edit by sirI on Jan 21, '07 : Reason: TOS
  9. by   zenman
    Quote from teacher2crna
    5 day old bruise needs a second opinion for possible child abuse....liability..


    in referring a student to the nurse, you would probably ask the child what happened. if they said father hit them, i'd refer straight to the counselor for followup. this would hopefully already be part of your school policy.


    i'm wondering why you're even on a nursing site? respect is earned and i think i have enough of it, especially when those around me realize i coud be their last hope in whether they live or die!

    i'm going to have to come here more often; this site is getting better!

    in the interests of adult to adult communication, could you elementary teachers please refrain from using color font?
    Last edit by sirI on Jan 21, '07 : Reason: referred to a post that was edited
  10. by   Teacher2bCRNA
    1. it's a public message board.
    2. if you reread the thread, many people here are complaining that teachers or school staff don't respect them.
    3. the site gives the option of colored font, so that's exactly what i will use.


    Quote from zenman;2028087[b
    ]i'm wondering why you're even on a nursing site?[/b] respect is earned and i think i have enough of it, especially when those around me realize i coud be their last hope in whether they live or die!

    i'm going to have to come here more often; this site is getting better!

    in the interests of adult to adult communication, could you elementary teachers please refrain from using color font?
  11. by   Keepstanding
    Quote from teacher2crna
    1. it's a public message board.
    2. if you reread the thread, many people here are complaining that teachers or school staff don't respect them.
    3. the site gives the option of colored font, so that's exactly what i will use.
    maybe you'd be better suited to get on a "teacher" site.
    respect is a two way street. you give it....i'll return it.
    this site is not meant to stirr up strife. i pay to be on this site by the way.
    i prefer the positive as opposed to your negative.

    god bless you,
  12. by   zenman
    Do you really intend to be a CRNA?
  13. by   TXNurseBSN
    Quote from nitengale75
    In my school, I do not expect the teacher to make a diagnosis of a health problem. However, I do expect the teacher to know who the frequent fliers are, who the students are who constantly want out of class (I am in a high school) and what is trivial. Trivial examples are picking a scab on the back of a pierced ear, a broken acrylic fingernail, peroxide for piercings, paper cuts, etc. After 16 years, I still love my job as a school nurse but sometimes am still amazed at teachers who send students out of their classrooms for anything and everything. I think that is what LPN 90 was trying to say about training teachers. No one has to worry about my feelings as a school nurse but sometimes I worry about how much education a student is receiving if he/she is constantly in my office. This post was not written to offend anyone but in fairness to all school nurses, I think our skin is thicker than worrying about teachers "worrying about the school nurse's feelings.
    Well said! I get a lot of requests for safety pins, rubber bands, styrofoam cups (for teachers coffee). This are related to health and covering a teacher's *** how????

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