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Insert GIANT eye roll So I am manually entering all of our Kindergarten students into Power School and I catch a student who still needs DTaP #5, MMR/Varivax #2, IPV #4 and ALL Hep B. She has had... Read More

  1. by   OldDude
    Quote from MrNurse(x2)
    We have, that is why we are hesitant. My wife and I both researched and came to this decision, two nurses, along with consulting docs. It is not full coverage and may give children a superman complex that they are covered, that stupidity goes both ways. Should they develop a full coverage or a coverage significant enough, I would believe the risk is worth the gain.
    I can understand you being hesitant if you are concerned about negative side effects...but...as a parent of 5 kids, 4 boys and the youngest, girl of 14, don't worry about any message they may or may not receive from getting a vaccine that may prevent transmitting a STD. Similar to the comparison that educating them about condoms gives them your permission to have sex. Each one of them are different and will make up their own mind based on - WHATEVER!! You just try to give them the basis and foundation of truth and roll the dice.
  2. by   No Stars In My Eyes
    Ok, this isn't about a school kid, but I just have to pipe in here: my 70 year old sister has "been doing a lot of reading" and said "I don't think I'm going to take the flu vaccine this year." When she told me that I took in a breath and STARTED to say "Ah," and was about to ask her did she really think that was a good idea? Because she is Definitely a senior citizen, and one who catches every single respiratory infection and norovirus that comes around,and she's going to say 'no' to a flu shot...and the pneumonia vaccine, and the shingles vaccine? Oh. My. God
    She wanted to tell me about everything she's been reading about it lately, but I said Nope,nononono, if you don't want to hear what I have to say then I don't have to hear what you want to say. I am sick up to my eyeballs with the anti-vaccine argument.
    Part of one of her reasons has something to do with her being a vegetarian and some animal-related product connection that goes into medicines. She even wants to stop taking her Thyroid med because something in it comes from animals.
    Heck of a time of life to worry about being totally pure-of-diet, etc.!
    Bad enough that mom's keep their kids from getting their vaccinations, but at her age, my sister is playing Russian Roulette.

    Thank you for allowing me to vent; I now return you to your regular school-nurse thread!
  3. by   ctate
    I have wondered about this also. Then noticed some of my seniors who have had the Conscientious Objections for the 7th grade requirements are some of the first ones to get the MCV for college. What?! I have to chase your down at least twice and remind you to get me the updated waiver. But it's okay now they are a senior?
  4. by   JenTheSchoolRN
    Quote from ctate
    I have wondered about this also. Then noticed some of my seniors who have had the Conscientious Objections for the 7th grade requirements are some of the first ones to get the MCV for college. What?! I have to chase your down at least twice and remind you to get me the updated waiver. But it's okay now they are a senior?
    Maybe college can reinforce that MCV. When I worked a college in my pre-nursing days, that immunization was non-negotiable if a student wanted to live on campus. If they didn't get it, no on campus housing placement.
  5. by   AdobeRN
    Quote from JenTheSchoolRN
    Maybe college can reinforce that MCV. When I worked a college in my pre-nursing days, that immunization was non-negotiable if a student wanted to live on campus. If they didn't get it, no on campus housing placement.
    Here in Texas you can't even register for college classes until you have an updated MCV on file( or Exemption) up until you are 22 - no matter if you live on campus or not.
  6. by   NurseBeans
    Ugh...here you just need a notarized statement, it has to be the exact same statement that public health publishes. People try to riff on the statement but the law says it has to be exact. I don't get that many to be honest. I do have one student who had a religious exemption to lead testing (like, what religion is against lead testing???).

    I had to give flu shots to adults this weekend, and I heard some doozies. One lady actually asked me if it would give her "alcohol fetal syndrome" and I was too stunned to point out that not only is it not called that, but she is not a fetus, nor is she pregnant, nor is there alcohol in the flu shot...I just couldn't.

    I had one guy refer to the flu shot as poison, and he started to tell me there was no way I was putting my poison into him because it was going to give him down's syndrome. What even?

    Then another woman asked if she could use a religious exemption because she decided it was against her religion. Suddenly, in the middle of my flu shot clinic. OK. I told her yes, but she better get me the notarized statement quickly. Then she said she's breastfeeding so she should not get it anyway. I was just like lady, you have no idea what you are talking about! You NEED the flu shot to protect that infant!

    Don't get me started on the anti-vaxxers. They make it pretty clear that dead is better than autistic in their minds, and that alone is pretty insulting to many fine autistic folks I know.
  7. by   brillohead
    And people wonder why I walk around all the time muttering, "I hate people!"????
  8. by   lovethejobbut...
    I think we have to respect their beliefs regardless...people can change their beliefs at any stage of their lives, it's one of the things about living in a nation where we have freedom of choice, and those choices are not categorized or judged according to my belief system or anybody else's. There are worse things that cause problems in greater numbers than these non-vaccinators....driving in an alcoholic stupor, violent drug fueled violence, to name only two.
  9. by   OldDude
    Quote from lovethejobbut...
    I think we have to respect their beliefs regardless...people can change their beliefs at any stage of their lives, it's one of the things about living in a nation where we have freedom of choice, and those choices are not categorized or judged according to my belief system or anybody else's. There are worse things that cause problems in greater numbers than these non-vaccinators....driving in an alcoholic stupor, violent drug fueled violence, to name only two.
    Your post really has two separate statements. Are you're saying you respect non-vaccinators but you don't respect those who drive in an alcoholic stupor or those who participate in violent drug fueled violence because they cause more problems than the non-vaccinators?
  10. by   lovethejobbut...
    No. I am well aware of what the majority of nurses think about non-vaccinators...it has come across in most of these posts and I've heard plenty at work, and I understand it, but I don't have an opinion myself (comment on that if you will although I'm not sure what you will make of my freedom of choice to not have an opinion about everything)...the point was, there are worse things that happen, and who are we to judge?
  11. by   Ciethekid
    Quote from NutmeggeRN
    I have found, on several occasions, that mom (or dad) is in a new relationship or marriage, and suddenly their views change to match their partners.
    This was my thinking.
  12. by   TriciaJ
    Quote from NanaPoo
    Oh, indeed. I have a 6th grader who was vaccinated all the way up until dad's 2nd marriage to a tree-hugging, non-vaccinating hippie and now this kid receives absolutely no OTC meds, no gluten, and no vaccines. Where in the heck did this girl's bio mom go because I want to find her and shake her?!?

    I have another student who's mom sends a long, judgey letter each year explaining why he shouldn't have a PPD or any vaccines. I'm certain my eyes will either get stuck in the back of my head or my brains will explode out of my skull each time I read it. The Hep-B explanation gets to me the most: "The Hepatitis-B vaccine protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of my faith."

    Ohmigawd...don't even get me started. So, since I got the Hep B vaccine, that means I'm gonna ho-bag it up on the corner. Not because I'm at risk caring for people in the most compassionate and selfless of careers that even exists. And while I'm ho'ing it up, I'm probably injecting drugs with dirty needles from all my ho and pimp friends...aargh, I wanna punch this chick in the face every time I see her but she's too busy working on her Master's in PUBLIC HEALTH!!!
    Does she think her shiny new MPH will lend credibility to her crap? Or will the cognitive dissonance cause her head to finally explode? Or will she just flunk out because she can't keep the crap out of her term papers?
  13. by   TriciaJ
    Quote from lovethejobbut...
    I think we have to respect their beliefs regardless...people can change their beliefs at any stage of their lives, it's one of the things about living in a nation where we have freedom of choice, and those choices are not categorized or judged according to my belief system or anybody else's. There are worse things that cause problems in greater numbers than these non-vaccinators....driving in an alcoholic stupor, violent drug fueled violence, to name only two.
    Or vaccine-preventable epidemics that kill large numbers of people. Like when smallpox used to do that, or the flu epidemic of 1918 for starters....

    Respecting beliefs is one thing. But when beliefs are based on complete nonsense - it's hard to respect stupidity.

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