Question about sub Nurse hours

  1. Hi, I've been subbing in the schools for a little over a year. I get paid a per diem rate.

    There is a full time nurse who is going out on leave and I have been asked if I want to "fill in" for three months.

    heres my concern. It doesn't feel right to do the work of a full timer while being paid my paltry per diem rate. Are per diems "allowed" to work that many hours? I thought after working certain amt
    of hours in a pay period you are considered part time or full time. How do I ask for more money?

    Im in NJ if that has any bearing on anything.
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    About nycNurse2b, RN

    Joined: Feb '04; Posts: 362; Likes: 45
    RN; from US
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  3. by   NutmeggeRN
    Some districts will do a long term sub rate, ask about that.
  4. by   nycNurse2b
    Yes! Long term sub rate! That's what I'm looking for. Thanks so much!
  5. by   OldDude
    Quote from NutmeggeRN
    Some districts will do a long term sub rate, ask about that.
    Same here...otherwise in public schools there isn't an option for "negotiation." Take it or leave it. I don't agree with it but that doesn't affect reality. For instance, in our district there is a pay scale that applies to all teachers. Occasionally a teacher will get a measly stipend to "coach." Ends up working out to about $2.00/hr compared to the time they put in. A Pre K teacher gets paid the same as a 4th grade teacher. The 4th grade teacher has to be accountable for state testing and other accountable progress while the Pre K teacher just has to heard the cats around for 3 hours a day - twice per day. Makes no sense compared to the real world.

    But, if you're OK with that particular sub position, I'd take it...often theses guys never return to work.
  6. by   kidzcare
    Quote from OldDude
    The 4th grade teacher has to be accountable for state testing and other accountable progress while the Pre K teacher just has to heard the cats around for 3 hours a day - twice per day. Makes no sense compared to the real world.
    Careful here. This is akin to some who come on our SN forum and say we do nothing but hand out bandaids and ice packs.

    I work at a preschool and the teachers work really freaking hard. No way I could do it. 17 three year olds in a classroom? 8 with IEPs? Every position has it's challenges, lets not judge.
  7. by   OldDude
    Quote from kidzcare
    Careful here. This is akin to some who come on our SN forum and say we do nothing but hand out bandaids and ice packs.

    I work at a preschool and the teachers work really freaking hard. No way I could do it. 17 three year olds in a classroom? 8 with IEPs? Every position has it's challenges, lets not judge.
    Yes, you are right, and I thank you for the reminder to look in the mirror. There's no way I would work in a day care.
  8. by   kidzcare
    Quote from OldDude
    Yes, you are right, and I thank you for the reminder to look in the mirror. There's no way I would work in a day care.
    I could not either. I go into the classrooms to do an observation or get a couple kiddos for vision and hearing screenings and I can only take it for a few minutes. Between behavioral issues, separation anxiety, and a spectrum of developmental delays... They should all have halos!

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