parents won't pick up sick kid! - page 3

I have never had this happen before, and don't know what to do. The parents and both secondary contacts refuse to come get a sick child from school. They say that none of them can leave work. This... Read More

  1. by   Nurse in MT
    You call child protective services. That is medical neglect on the part of the parent and you're a mandatory reporter.
  2. by   LM NY
    You guys would seriously call to report "neglect" on a parent that didn't come immediately for their child with a 103 fever? I have three kids that attend the same school and I informed the school nurse not to contact me unless it is an emergency. As a nurse, I trust her assessment and judgement. Threatening a parent with CPS/ACS is not cool and is downright mean. Are there protocols for school nurses to take in such cases, besides medication? In the school emergency contact form, there is a question about what to do if the emergency contacts cannot be reached and I simply put, they can stay with the nurse and if it is severe then take my child to the nearest emergency department. Things happen and people miss phone calls, but if there is no evidence of actual neglect then why get a family on a long list when these agencies could be investigating real neglect instead of wasting their resources on a family that couldn't easily be reached about a fever.
  3. by   Cattz
    LM NY- Are you a School Nurse?
  4. by   Farawyn
    Quote from LM NY
    You guys would seriously call to report "neglect" on a parent that didn't come immediately for their child with a 103 fever? I have three kids that attend the same school and I informed the school nurse not to contact me unless it is an emergency. As a nurse, I trust her assessment and judgement. Threatening a parent with CPS/ACS is not cool and is downright mean. Are there protocols for school nurses to take in such cases, besides medication? In the school emergency contact form, there is a question about what to do if the emergency contacts cannot be reached and I simply put, they can stay with the nurse and if it is severe then take my child to the nearest emergency department. Things happen and people miss phone calls, but if there is no evidence of actual neglect then why get a family on a long list when these agencies could be investigating real neglect instead of wasting their resources on a family that couldn't easily be reached about a fever.
    NO, I would NOT.
    I have quite a few undocumented kids here. Their parents work all day long and cannot come get their kid. Yes, I will keep a child with 103 fever in my office and I will NOT call CPS unless it happens on a constant basis.

    By the way, I think you are right on.
    In NY CPS would laugh at me on this, unless the kid had huge documentation of being here with a fever and being "neglected" repeatedly.

    Also, EMS would laugh at me if I activated 911 for a kid with 103 fever as well.

    So happy I have a reasonable Admin and school policy, ad they trust my NURSING judgement.
  5. by   Farawyn
    Quote from Nurse in MT
    You call child protective services. That is medical neglect on the part of the parent and you're a mandatory reporter.
    NO.
    You DON'T.
  6. by   Farawyn
    Quote from Amethya
    I only had one student with this issue, and took the whole day for his mom to get her. The mother came in later crying, saying sorry because she couldn't get off work. I got it and told her it's fine, but take the child to the doctor and don't bring him to school until his fever is gone completely, which she did but I felt horrible for the child and mother.
    It happens. Yes.
    Again, if it is habit, that's another story.
    Most parents should have a few backup plans in place.
    I did.
    But, it HAPPENS.
  7. by   WineRN
    Quote from Farawyn
    I will NOT call CPS unless it happens on a constant basis.
    I think this is the point some people are missing.

    Having sick ones in the office is a part of the job. Being unable to pick up your child once or twice due to work is no fun for everyone involved and by no means warrants a CPS or EMS call or "threat".

    But having the same kid come in repeatedly for fever, or uncontrolled asthma, or chronic lice/flea bites, or an undiagnosed allergy, or fatigue from not being able to sleep at home...Those kids I am paying special attention to and calling in reinforcements when needed.

    Same with the parents who simply don't care. The ones who refuse to bring in meds because "you have stock there" or they don't think the child needs them anymore ;refuse to pick up their child before noon because their "gym is 45 mins away"; refuse to leave work because "he doesn't sound like he's crying enough to have a broken bone".
  8. by   Farawyn
    *points to my eyes then yours*
  9. by   OldDude
    I don't like Wine but I like WineRN's post. Each child comes with their own set of circumstances. I will add, fever, in and of itself, is not a medical emergency.

    I had a kid in here yesterday who came in at 9:30 AM with fever, laid in here all day, with fever, until I walked him out to his mother at dismissal with a temp of 98.7. I gave him no medicine during the day. Oh yea, I called several times to get the same message, "voice mail box is not set up," and I sent several text messages, I left messages on alternative phone numbers or listened to another contact number, "this phone does not accept incoming calls." The mother told me she received nothing from me on her phone. It's likely she is lying to me but it may be just as likely she isn't; you know - technology - reliably unreliable. So, she did heed my instruction, the student is not back today. I'll file this away. If it happens again with her it'll throw the circumstances into another category and we'll go from there.

    Know what I mean?
  10. by   LM NY
    Quote from Cattz
    LM NY- Are you a School Nurse?
    No, I am not a school nurse. I do not think that is relevant.
  11. by   kidzcare
    Quote from LM NY
    No, I am not a school nurse. I do not think that is relevant.
    It's relevant to know where your stance is coming from.
  12. by   Farawyn
    Quote from kidzcare
    It's relevant to know where your stance is coming from.
    I know why you and Cattz ask. I've asked that question in a very NOT SO NICE way many times here.
    That being said, I would say her stance comes from common sense.
  13. by   Farawyn
    Quote from OldDude
    I don't like Wine but I like WineRN's post. Each child comes with their own set of circumstances. I will add, fever, in and of itself, is not a medical emergency.

    I had a kid in here yesterday who came in at 9:30 AM with fever, laid in here all day, with fever, until I walked him out to his mother at dismissal with a temp of 98.7. I gave him no medicine during the day. Oh yea, I called several times to get the same message, "voice mail box is not set up," and I sent several text messages, I left messages on alternative phone numbers or listened to another contact number, "this phone does not accept incoming calls." The mother told me she received nothing from me on her phone. It's likely she is lying to me but it may be just as likely she isn't; you know - technology - reliably unreliable. So, she did heed my instruction, the student is not back today. I'll file this away. If it happens again with her it'll throw the circumstances into another category and we'll go from there.

    Know what I mean?
    I'm picking up what you're puttin' down.

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