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Please do not post on Facebook. Everything was fine today but I got a letter about a student that is coming back from recovering from mumps. My AP asked me to ask our supervisor on what we should... Read More

  1. by   WineRN
    Quote from 3peas
    Receiving "google docs" is not training. She needs to have documentation of your training. Your rebuttal should say you were not the medical professional who diagnosed and you never received training on district protocol. Your supervisor is getting heat from above you and passing it down to you.
    ^^ This^^

    I'm sorry you were written up, but I completely agree that it is your supervisor passing down the blame.
  2. by   Amethya
    Quote from ruby_jane
    How are you meant to report if you are not the one testing the student? Not reporting to whom? Do you have access to the teachers' union?
    I don't think we have one, and I don't know how to join one.
  3. by   Flare
    it sounds like the diagnosing doctor is the one that dropped the ball here. And I agree that the admins sound like they are blaming you. In your job title, would you even be able to make a report to the DOH?
  4. by   MrNurse(x2)
    Amethya, so sorry you are dealing with this. A very friendly reminder that we were all concerned that this may happen without direct oversight. You would be wise to find a better situation next year with direct supervision. Don't double guess yourself on this, you are not trained to know communicable diseases and it sounds like your district set you up to fail in this by doing self training. Self training only works when there is a point of reference, and you, as an MA do not have that point of reference. Your employer failed you and the students and your letter should address that and be confident in your ignorance of the protocol. It would be like asking a chef to know the way to fix his oven.
  5. by   Amethya
    Quote from MrNurse(x2)
    Amethya, so sorry you are dealing with this. A very friendly reminder that we were all concerned that this may happen without direct oversight. You would be wise to find a better situation next year with direct supervision. Don't double guess yourself on this, you are not trained to know communicable diseases and it sounds like your district set you up to fail in this by doing self training. Self training only works when there is a point of reference, and you, as an MA do not have that point of reference. Your employer failed you and the students and your letter should address that and be confident in your ignorance of the protocol. It would be like asking a chef to know the way to fix his oven.
    But won't they get mad for this rebuttal? They are already kinda mad at me now, so I'm not sure how I can present this at a good time.
  6. by   OldDude
    Quote from Amethya
    But won't they get mad for this rebuttal? They are already kinda mad at me now, so I'm not sure how I can present this at a good time.
    So what if they do...no rebuttal is your implied acceptance you agree with their decision and action and that's the way it stands until the end of time. So include your rebuttal in the file and if it ever goes into some type of arbitration both sides of the story will be included.
  7. by   Amethya
    Update:

    So we haven't had any issues, but today I had 22 students come in, 6 had to go home for vomiting and/or headaches. A lot of the complaints were mostly stomach aches and headaches.

    I was worried, so I asked the Department of Health in Texas, to the lab person I spoke with before, they told me because it's been almost a month, it should be okay, but to keep an eye on the students for anything suspicious. I did tell my AP and sent an email to my school health manager about this, so they can know and not say I didn't report it to them.

    I think it's just a stomach virus, and that's what he told me too.
  8. by   WineRN
    Quote from Amethya
    Update:

    So we haven't had any issues, but today I had 22 students come in, 6 had to go home for vomiting and/or headaches. A lot of the complaints were mostly stomach aches and headaches.

    I was worried, so I asked the Department of Health in Texas, to the lab person I spoke with before, they told me because it's been almost a month, it should be okay, but to keep an eye on the students for anything suspicious. I did tell my AP and sent an email to my school health manager about this, so they can know and not say I didn't report it to them.

    I think it's just a stomach virus, and that's what he told me too.
    Even though it puts extra work on you, I would continue to do exactly this when similar situations happen. This way you are covered and you are staying in your scope of practice.
  9. by   Amethya
    Quote from WineRN
    Even though it puts extra work on you, I would continue to do exactly this when similar situations happen. This way you are covered and you are staying in your scope of practice.
    Thank you. I shall keep doing this.
  10. by   ArryOtter
    This is just so odd to me. You didn't diagnose and shouldn't have to report. I'd include a rebuttal as well.
  11. by   Amethya
    Quote from ArryOtter
    This is just so odd to me. You didn't diagnose and shouldn't have to report. I'd include a rebuttal as well.
    I already got it written and such. I'm just going to send it to her by email and be done with it.
  12. by   msilcox
    I could be wrong, but isn't the person who diagnoses the one who reports to the health department?

    I just came from Infectious Disease office, what we did is if we tested for it it was our responsibility to report it, but most of the time it was already reported by the lab that performed the test. When so patients were referred to our office we had to report the findings but typically the doctor that does the test is the responsible party.

    The best thing at this point is push forward, own your mistake and try not to be so hard on yourself it unfortunate that the higher ups won't own up to their own but use this a teaching moment. You can only learn from your mistakes to make yourself better.
    I wish you the best of luck, Keep your head up and your spirits high you'll make it through this! Keep the Faith!!
  13. by   Amethya
    Quote from msilcox
    I could be wrong, but isn't the person who diagnoses the one who reports to the health department?

    I just came from Infectious Disease office, what we did is if we tested for it it was our responsibility to report it, but most of the time it was already reported by the lab that performed the test. When so patients were referred to our office we had to report the findings but typically the doctor that does the test is the responsible party.

    The best thing at this point is push forward, own your mistake and try not to be so hard on yourself it unfortunate that the higher ups won't own up to their own but use this a teaching moment. You can only learn from your mistakes to make yourself better.
    I wish you the best of luck, Keep your head up and your spirits high you'll make it through this! Keep the Faith!!
    What I learned from the CDC office here in Texas is that the doctor did report it, but because the lab work was in process but only some part of it was complete, the lab didn't report it because it wasn't Offically "not yet clear" if he did or not, even if he did. So I had to call myself and report it and I guess they got it fixed.

    But sadly, even if the child was okay, his mother was not. She was our PTO president and she passed away this last weekend from complications, she had Mumps but then it turned into pneumonia... I'm not sure if the child is coming back or not, but it's disheartening.

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