Does anyone know inside details about RIC's nursing program

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It is my 4th year at RIC. I have applied once to the nursing program. I was not able to get a seat because they couldn't accommodate me. I have everything finished, I mean everything. I have more than 90 credits. I only have the minimum GPA required, a 2.7. Last month I was diagnosed with ADD, and I was just placed on medicine a month ago. I tried so hard in all my classes, but got mostly C's in my science and chem courses. My advisor told me to take some classes over again. I have taken 4 over, and my GPA will still be under a 3.0 after taking physiology over this semester, I had a C in it. I am Hispanic, and know others with the same waiting situation who are not being accepted. Does anyone think it is discrimination? I even wrote a letter to the committee explaining how I lost my best friend the first yr of school, so my grades really suffered. Now that I am on concerta, they are telling me to submit another letter explaining my learning disability and how my grades have changed. I feel like I am at the end of the road. I am 23, and I don't want anything else but to be a nurse. I know if I do get in for this fall, it will be almost 3 more years! 7 yrs is crazy for a bachelors. Can anyone help or give ma any advice???

Thank You so much! :nurse:

Congratulations to all of you that got into the program!! That's great. I unfortunatly couldn't get a seat. So do you have any advice for me? I am a 2nd degree candidate and have only taken 1 class at RIC (Micro) and I got a C. My GPA from my other school/coursework is about a 3.1. I'm going to apply again but I'm still very bummed! I've taken everything so I'm not sure where to go from here to get my GPA up. Any advice would be appreciated!!

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.
Congratulations to all of you that got into the program!! That's great. I unfortunatly couldn't get a seat. So do you have any advice for me? I am a 2nd degree candidate and have only taken 1 class at RIC (Micro) and I got a C. My GPA from my other school/coursework is about a 3.1. I'm going to apply again but I'm still very bummed! I've taken everything so I'm not sure where to go from here to get my GPA up. Any advice would be appreciated!!

Howdy Lala, let me just say welcome to AllNurses.com and I'd be happy to help you. I have talked to a bunch of Nursing majors who have gotten in and I have pretty much figured out how its done. First of all, would you mind posting what grades you have for the following courses listed below as well as where and when you took them and your overall GPA at RIC please.

General Psychology -

General/Organic/Bio. Chem. I -

Human Anatomy -

Human Development -

General/Organic/Bio. Chem. II -

Human Physiology -

Microbiology -

Although these are not all the courses that you need; they are the most important ones that the Nursing department looks at, especially Human Anatomy, Chem. II and Human Development. I will say that the Nursing department really prefers you take most of the your sciences at RIC, have at least a 3.0 or above and have no more then one C on your transcript for any of your classes. I know that seems really tough but it is possible. Have you scheduled your classes for the fall semester yet? If not we can help you come up with a good schedule to help you out.

!Chris :specs:

First of all, would you mind posting what grades you have for the following courses listed below as well as where and when you took them and your overall GPA at RIC please.

General Psychology -

General/Organic/Bio. Chem. I -

Human Anatomy -

Human Development -

General/Organic/Bio. Chem. II -

Human Physiology -

Microbiology -

Okay - I took everything at RWU except devel. pysch(CCRI), organic(CCRI), and micro(RIC). Here are my grades:

Gen Psych - B-

Organic Chem (I only had to take 1) - C for the class A for the lab (they do it separate at CCRI i guess)

Anatomy & Physiology I - A

Anatomy & Physiology II - B+

Developmental Psych - B

Microbiology - C

With only 1 class at RIC my GPA there is a 2.00! :( I don't think it counted as a strike against me though because my letter said lack of available seats.) So basically I'm a B student which is not too good for nursing I guess. If I took Micro again would my new grade override my old grade? I'm also worried that my courses are going to "expire" because I took A&P in 2004.

It's really hard because I am a 2nd degree student and my first degree really does not show the student I am now. It's a lot different as you get older (even though I'm only 25) but you treat things differently when it is something you really want. THank you so much for your time and help!! I haven't picked any classes for the fall because I'm not sure what I'm should do yet. I have an e-mail into my advisor I'm just waiting on a reply. What's your opinion? Thanks again!!!

Katie

Hey Katie!

Your grades will not expire. I took anatomy in 2000 and Physiology in 2001 and I just got accepted into the program. However, I did get a 4.0 both semesters I was at RIC. I took Basic biology, microbiology, human dev, and chem 1 & 2 at RIC. As Chris said (i think his name is chris!) the nursing dept focuses on Organic Chem, Human Dev, and Anatomy. You may want to reconsider taking one of those classes over at RIC and getting a higher grade....I'm also a second degree student (1st degree in health and phys ed from ithaca College) and it's extremely competitive, more so than general students. My understanding is they accept a small percentage of second degrees each semester. So for the fall, even though there were 90 seats available, only about 10 or so go to second degrees. We are in our own category, and all have the same determined mind set of getting in done. I hope this helps. Just keep on trucking!

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.
Okay - I took everything at RWU except devel. pysch(CCRI), organic(CCRI), and micro(RIC). Here are my grades:

Gen Psych - B-

Organic Chem - C for the class A for the lab

Anatomy & Physiology I - A

Anatomy & Physiology II - B+

Developmental Psych - B

Microbiology - C

With only 1 class at RIC my GPA there is a 2.00! :( I don't think it counted as a strike against me though because my letter said lack of available seats.) So basically I'm a B student which is not too good for nursing I guess. If I took Micro again would my new grade override my old grade? I'm also worried that my courses are going to "expire" because I took A&P in 2004.

It's really hard because I am a 2nd degree student and my first degree really does not show the student I am now. It's a lot different as you get older (even though I'm only 25) but you treat things differently when it is something you really want. Thank you so much for your time and help!! I haven't picked any classes for the fall because I'm not sure what I'm should do yet. I have an e-mail into my adviser I'm just waiting on a reply. What's your opinion? Thanks again!!!

Katie

Ok Lala thanks for posting those grades. I wouldn't worry so much about expiring grades because yours are only a few years old but I would instead focus on making the grades that the Nursing department really looks at shine and making a few more of those come from RIC. So here's what I would suggest... Your General Psych. grade is ok so I would leave it. The Chem. grade is a C (which in my mind is fine but the Nursing department is a little more strict then me) so what I would do is sign up for Chem. 106 and do that at RIC. By doing that you will get a good refresher in Chemistry and it will show the department that you can really handle RIC's science courses. Chem. 105 is usually required before Chem. 106 but I think because you took a Chem. course a CCRI you can skip Chem. 105 (be sure to ask your adviser though). Anatomy and Physiology look good and so does Developmental Psych. I would suggest that you retake Microbiology also in the Fall, this will replace the C in Micro you have and show the Nursing department a good faith effort at trying to improve your grade. I would round out your schedule by putting in a core class from RIC, even though your second degree and probably don't need it a good grade from one of these classes will help to beef up your RIC GPA and most advisers will agree with me that its a good idea to do that. So just to do a quick recap:

I would suggest you sign up for Microbiology, Chem. 106 and Core I.

Doing so will give you a full time schedule and although I can't promise that will get you in next semester I think it will definitely help your chances a lot. When you speak to your adviser ask them if they think this schedule is a good idea. Also double check with them that you will be allowed to take Chem. 106 because you took another Chem. class at CCRI so you don't have to take Chem. 105 first (Chem. 105 is good too but the Chem. 106 grade is put right on the application first page and it will be the first thing the committee sees.) By the way, who is your adviser?

!Chris :specs:

Specializes in Med/Surg.

LaLa 783-

You need to get that GPA up. Take a few courses (ie, Psych, etc.) that aren't too challenging so it can boost your overall average. I agree with Chris in taking Chem 106. The science courses at RIC are much more rigorous and difficult here than at a community college. I think the committee would be pleased to see that you are challenging yourself by taking the Chem II. I wish you luck, and please don't give up!

I definately do not want to take Micro again but I will if it replaces the original grade. I can only fit Chem II and Micro because I work full time so those would be the only classes I can manage. Micro kicked my but last semester. I had it w/Rainone. Anyone recommend another professor?? If I take the courses in the fall, will they get those grades in time for when I apply in January?? You all are so supportive - thank you so much!

Chris - My advisor is Shelton - she's great! I'm thinking of contacting Dr. Williams though.

Katie

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.
I definitely do not want to take Micro again but I will if it replaces the original grade. I can only fit Chem II and Micro because I work full time so those would be the only classes I can manage. Micro kicked my but last semester. I had it w/ Rainone. Anyone recommend another professor?? If I take the courses in the fall, will they get those grades in time for when I apply in January?? You all are so supportive - thank you so much!

Chris - My adviser is Shelton - she's great! I'm thinking of contacting Dr. Williams though.

Katie

I can understand not wanting to take Microbiology again but for your case I really do think its necessary. If you can only fit Chem. II and Micro. in to your schedule then that's fine. I am actually scheduled to take it with Rainone myself and I wanted to see how other people did in her class. If you can take Microbiology in the morning I have heard great things about Dr. Kolibachuk. I think that for night classes only Rainone is teaching it. If you take the classes in the Fall they will be on your application for Spring of 09. The nursing department waits until the end of the semester to make their decision so don't worry about that. I think taking Micro. and Chem. II and doing really well in them will be a big boost for you but I can't promise that it will be enough to get in (it might be but it might not be.) You can ask GreenEyes what she thinks but I don't think contacting Dr. Williams is a good idea. Dr. Williams is not on the committee that chooses the new students (because she is the dean) and I think it will make you appear desperate to get in and that your trying to go above the committees decision. I understand that you are just trying to find out what it takes to get in but I don't think that speaking to Dr. Williams is going to help you or reflect positively on you. I would like to hear GreenEyes' opinion though.

Specializes in Med/Surg.

Rainone is tough, I had Micro with her. I don't think you need to take Micro again. A "C" is not great, but to go through all of that work and stress again would be absolutely ridiculous. Definitely take Chem II, but skip the Micro. Maybe add on a gen ed to the Chem II and focus on those. Lots of people who were accepted into nursing had C's in Micro....I know of 3 people off hand who did.

The only other prof for Micro is Kolibachuk, and she is equally difficult. There is no escaping it....Rainone and Dr. K are both really tough teachers. The only plus with Rainone is that she gives lots of extra credit for doing the reading ahead of time....this totally SAVED MY BEHIND! :chuckle

Contacting the dean will do nothing for you. People do it all the time, and she really cannot help you because of the overwhelming amount of students in the same situation. Your best bet is to work really hard next semester and hopefully pull of a high GPA. I would recommend Social Psychology with Dr. Rollins ---> EASY "A"!!

Also...I have the most fabulous advisor.....Kathy Gremel....she is so kind and understanding. When I was applying to the nursing program she sat and talked with me for over an hour about her nursing experiences.....such an awesome lady!

Any other questions...or if you want my opinion on anything just ask!

All of these ideas are great and I think the Social Psych class would be beneficial/easy/interesting so I'm going to check it out. The only reason I want to speak to the dean is because I'm not hearing anything from my advisor and I would just like to see where I stand academically. I enrolled for chem II and it doesn't sound as hard as the organic class I took at CCRI, which was basically for pharmacy students! You all have definately gotten me thinking positive again after a few days of being discouraged! Thanks!

Katie

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.
Rainone is tough, I had Micro with her. I don't think you need to take Micro again. A "C" is not great, but to go through all of that work and stress again would be absolutely ridiculous. Definitely take Chem II, but skip the Micro. Maybe add on a gen ed to the Chem II and focus on those. Lots of people who were accepted into nursing had C's in Micro....I know of 3 people off hand who did.

The only other prof for Micro is Kolibachuk, and she is equally difficult. There is no escaping it....Rainone and Dr. K are both really tough teachers. The only plus with Rainone is that she gives lots of extra credit for doing the reading ahead of time....this totally SAVED MY BEHIND! :chuckle

Contacting the dean will do nothing for you. People do it all the time, and she really cannot help you because of the overwhelming amount of students in the same situation. Your best bet is to work really hard next semester and hopefully pull of a high GPA. I would recommend Social Psychology with Dr. Rollins ---> EASY "A"!!

Also...I have the most fabulous advisor.....Kathy Gremel....she is so kind and understanding. When I was applying to the nursing program she sat and talked with me for over an hour about her nursing experiences.....such an awesome lady!

Any other questions...or if you want my opinion on anything just ask!

I agree with GreenEyes.

The only reason why I suggested that Lala retakes Micro. is because Lala has almost no credits from RIC and having her only grade from RIC be a C isn't really great. Most of the time having one C is ok but I just suggested that she retake it because even when she applies for the Spring semester she will not have many credits from RIC and right now Lala needs to prove to the Nursing department that she can handle the sciences at RIC. Chem. II is definitely necessary. The psychology will be ok but I still stand by my recommendation that Lala needs another science from RIC to show she can handle the workload.

!Chris :specs:

Specializes in Med/Surg.

Chris-

I agree about the science thing and completely understand where you are coming from. BUT....to put it bluntly, Micro completely SUCKS and I would never dream of repeating it. I took 4 classes last semester and ended up spending 90% of my time on Micro... and still only pulled off a B-....

Maybe a different science? Chem II and Bio 108? Just throwing ideas out here.

Lala is in a tough situation because without a decent number of credits at RIC, the chances of being admitted are low. Another not-so-good thing is the fact that all of her prereq's come from a different college.

I guess there really is no clearcut answer here in terms of what would give the greatest chance for admission....I think it's a combination of things:

a high GPA, most of the prereqs and coreqs at RIC, a sizeable number of RIC credits so the committee has an idea the student can handle a 4 year college, mostly A's and B's in the sciences, etc.. etc...etc...

There are many students in a bind with getting into nursing programs all over the country. It really comes down to whether you are willing to work hard and wait for your chance.

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