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Will BSN get jobs over ASN in this recession?



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No. 10
from truern
Old Apr 05, 2009, 10:38 AM
Updated Apr 05, 2009 at 04:44 PM by truern

Default Re: Will BSN get jobs over ASN in this recession?
With my ADN I was hired over BSNs...but then my NS has a good rep in the community

I know as a nurse I've had students from both degrees work with my patients and in my experience the ADNs could hit the floor running, but the BSNs with all their theory, etc didn't have the same clinical skills. They also tended to focus on one aspect of care each week to the detriment of other aspects. If psychosocial was their focus they'd interview the patients relentlessly, but not bother to tend to basic needs that were *not* the focus. I never really understand that

JMO, but in the beginning neither has an advantage over the other, but down the line the BSN has the advantage when it comes to management positions.

Edited to add: at my hospital there's no difference in the pay for an ADN and a BSN new grad.
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No. 11
from moncj66
Old Apr 05, 2009, 11:33 AM

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don't think so, I am in a BSN program and during clinical at st. lukes there were some new hires on the floor as well orienting and I asked them what they make and there rank..Everyone had a associate degree and one girl only had a diploma! I was shocked and they also told me the pay difference was only 50 cents btw ASN and BSN, and im really starting to wonder why I chose the hard route!!
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No. 12
from caliotter3
Old Apr 05, 2009, 11:58 AM

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The only time that education was ever discussed by an employer during an interview for me was because it was a fact that I was in school for a BSN and that was why I was pursuing a night shift position. I was hired partly because I would soon be getting an RN license, not because I would soon be getting a BSN.
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No. 13
Old Apr 05, 2009, 12:48 PM

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I am hoping that because I'm getting a BSN, it will give me a better shot at what little jobs are out there when I graduate. I'm also hoping to get an internship/SNA job next year to get more experience.

And, no, I don't think one degree is better than the other....a 4 year degree is just a personal goal of mine and lines up with my future plans for graduate school.

Most of the job postings in my area list "BSN preferred" for RN's....so I'm just keeping my fingers crossed. But, maybe our economic situation in the next year or two will make things easier for all of us......who knows what will happen!
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No. 14
Old Apr 08, 2009, 12:41 AM

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I think experience and personality both go a long way to help make you look even better. Along with a good and accurate work history. But another thing that helps is my military background also. That certainly has it's own merits.
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No. 15
from oramar
Old Apr 08, 2009, 07:46 PM

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You know I honestly did not know the answer to this question and am reading the thread with great interest. Probably a year from now we will be able to answer the question with greater certainty.
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No. 16
from shodobe
Old Apr 09, 2009, 11:40 PM

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After 32 years WITHOUT a BSN I have been thinking about the time I stop working so hard in the OR. Getting a BSN degree has crossed my mind and I am still weighing the advantages. I find very few legit reasons. I make more an hour and per year than probably 95% of upper management, even some with MSN and can't see stepping back a little to achieve this. Now, I am not saying having that BSN degree can't have it's advantage way down the road, but those who think they have much of an advantage over those with ADNs or even Diplomas are really fooling themselves. Any manager that would hire a BSN grad over a ADN just because of that higher degree, I wouldn't want to work for them. Experience is where you will get the nod over others, book smarts is nice but practical experience will open far more doors now adays. I have another 5 years to put more money in my retirement account then I want to scale back until I am 65. Then I can get SS and really cut back to just a day or two a week. I couldn't just walk away completely. Don't ever go into an interview with the opinion that, "I am a BSN grad and that puts me above all the rest"! You will go down in splendid flames. Good luck though.
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No. 17
Old Apr 10, 2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by shodobe View Post
After 32 years WITHOUT a BSN I have been thinking about the time I stop working so hard in the OR. Getting a BSN degree has crossed my mind and I am still weighing the advantages. I find very few legit reasons. I make more an hour and per year than probably 95% of upper management, even some with MSN and can't see stepping back a little to achieve this. Now, I am not saying having that BSN degree can't have it's advantage way down the road, but those who think they have much of an advantage over those with ADNs or even Diplomas are really fooling themselves. Any manager that would hire a BSN grad over a ADN just because of that higher degree, I wouldn't want to work for them. Experience is where you will get the nod over others, book smarts is nice but practical experience will open far more doors now adays. I have another 5 years to put more money in my retirement account then I want to scale back until I am 65. Then I can get SS and really cut back to just a day or two a week. I couldn't just walk away completely. Don't ever go into an interview with the opinion that, "I am a BSN grad and that puts me above all the rest"! You will go down in splendid flames. Good luck though.

Well, we're talking about new grads, not people with experience. A person with a BSN may have used their critical reading skills to figure that out ;-)
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No. 18
from Castymiss
Old Apr 10, 2009, 10:09 AM

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I remember years ago I was applying for a job. I had years of AA degree experience..(they did not have the ADN at that time). I was told point blank, DO NOT APPLY IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A BSN DEGREE. This was for a public health position. THAT got me back to school after 20 years as an AA degree nurse. I find the hospitals do not pay any different between the two degrees. I have LEFT the hospital setting, NEVER to return. I also think working in big cities pay much more. Experienced nurses are leaving the hospital setting in droves due to horrible working conditions, poor management, and abuse the nurse takes from supervisors. Hence they are running to other countries trying to fill those spots. They can have them..hahaha....So MANY jobs outside of the hospital setting. You just have to go and find them.
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No. 19
from shodobe
Old Apr 11, 2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by greygooseuria View Post
Well, we're talking about new grads, not people with experience. A person with a BSN may have used their critical reading skills to figure that out ;-)
No, I think some out there still can't figure it out. Some still have this opinion that they should be hired over those with lesser degrees. There will always be positions that require a higher degree and all should accept that. But when it comes down to apples to apples, your impression with the interviewer will seal the deal, not your college degree. The other problem is hospitals are starting to drop their reimbursement programs and I don't think I want to get stuck with the balance of a 20-30,000 dollar program that might be hard to pay off. I have read where this is happening and the payback for older nurses might be questionable.
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