I agree that it depends upon the individual school, not whether it is an ADN or BSN program. There are clinically strong and clinically weak ADN programs and the same for BSN programs. You can't make blanket assumptions just based on the type of program.
I agree it all depends on the program. Frankly having been in all 3 Diploma is definitely first in getting skills. I did not finish that one for personal reasons.
I went right to a BS program and felt we stood around more than participated. Then after I got married I dropped out for 9 years and went to an associate program. 3 courses tough as nails-8 hours a day 4 days a week clinical- classes sometimes til 6 at night. I was ready to ride when I graduated.
So that's 3 programs out of the bazillion out there;it's like comparing apples, pecans and pvc pipe. You have to investigate before you start to find out how many clinical hours you need-and how many skills you can get in those hours.
maybe my question should be do u actually get hands on experience in clincals if you pursue a bsn?
Yes, you do; you'll place Foleys, initiate IVs, give meds, learn charting, do assessments, etc etc... with a 2-year program that's done in 4 semesters (5 if you do an LPN exit); with a 4-year BSN program, it's spread out more. If you want more hands-on training, know your stuff before you show up to clinicals; be ready to volunteer to assist with placing a chest tube, remove staples, do an IV push... whatever might happen. If you show aptitude and are willing to be the first to try something, your instructor will likely take notice and let you do more. I can't tell you how many times at the start of clinicals my instructor would pop her head into a room and go "Anyone want to d/c an epidural?" and the students would look nervously at each other and wait for someone else to volunteer. Get the basics down (sterile procedures, how to admin different types of injections, etc) from your book and be the first to jump on whatever opportunities your instructor provides.
It depends alot on the program like everyone has said. In general it depends on what your trained to do. Clinical skill focused on a little more in associate level. Management, academic is pushed more in BSN. You can't really answer which trains you better, you need to differentiate what it is you want to be trained for. My program had very little clinical training. I didn't know what working as a nurse was until after graduation, but I sure could write a paper about it, lol.
Where I live, the technical school that offers the ADN definately prepares students better in clinicals than the BSN at the university. The students in the ADN program were pretty much thrown in with the wolves in their first semester. There is no walking around with a nurse and watching like the students in the BSN program. I'm not saying that ADN nurses are better than BSNs, but they do get better prepared in my area.
it definately depends on the program. I had a friend in BSN, while i was in ADN. We both had two clinical days per week. I was at the same hospital on the same floor for both days. and they were only for 8 hours, not 12. My friend had one day at the hospital, and one day at a prison, or community, etc. She was a lil more afraid of performing skills than I, but i can not say that is because of her program. I know that she took more leadership and theory style classes, which you will need to take when you go for BSN. And hospitals want you to go back for your BSN. At first, i dreaded the thought, but now, im excited to further my education, while getting on the job experience. good luck homie.
I know in my area ADN graduates tend to have more experience with the technical skills compared to BSNs. At the end of the day, the choice between which program to get into depends on your ultimate career goals. If you plan on going back to school later on to be a NP or teach it makes sense to go for the the BSN right away.