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who is better trained(clincals) adn or bsn

  1. 0 i have heard conflicting stories about adn being more trained than a bsn. i thought to myself: if asn are more trained how is it that bsn are the ones who are prefered in hiring.
  2. Visit  mee9mee9 profile page

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  3. Visit  caliotter3 profile page
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    This is dependent upon the particular programs being compared at any given point in time.
  4. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    I agree that it depends upon the individual school, not whether it is an ADN or BSN program. There are clinically strong and clinically weak ADN programs and the same for BSN programs. You can't make blanket assumptions just based on the type of program.
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  5. Visit  biblepoet profile page
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    I agree it depends on where your clinicals are and the amount of things the clinical site allows the student to do.
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  6. Visit  P_RN profile page
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    I agree it all depends on the program. Frankly having been in all 3 Diploma is definitely first in getting skills. I did not finish that one for personal reasons.

    I went right to a BS program and felt we stood around more than participated. Then after I got married I dropped out for 9 years and went to an associate program. 3 courses tough as nails-8 hours a day 4 days a week clinical- classes sometimes til 6 at night. I was ready to ride when I graduated.

    So that's 3 programs out of the bazillion out there;it's like comparing apples, pecans and pvc pipe. You have to investigate before you start to find out how many clinical hours you need-and how many skills you can get in those hours.
    Joie_de_vivre and Jessy_RN like this.
  7. Visit  linearthinker profile page
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    There is no way to answer this question. It depends upon variables that cannot be assessed here: the schools, instructor, clinical sites, and student attitude and effort.
    Joie_de_vivre, cmh05, and RNDreamer like this.
  8. Visit  mee9mee9 profile page
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    maybe my question should be do u actually get hands on experience in clincals if you pursue a bsn?
  9. Visit  Quark09 profile page
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    Quote from mee9mee9
    maybe my question should be do u actually get hands on experience in clincals if you pursue a bsn?
    Yes, you do; you'll place Foleys, initiate IVs, give meds, learn charting, do assessments, etc etc... with a 2-year program that's done in 4 semesters (5 if you do an LPN exit); with a 4-year BSN program, it's spread out more. If you want more hands-on training, know your stuff before you show up to clinicals; be ready to volunteer to assist with placing a chest tube, remove staples, do an IV push... whatever might happen. If you show aptitude and are willing to be the first to try something, your instructor will likely take notice and let you do more. I can't tell you how many times at the start of clinicals my instructor would pop her head into a room and go "Anyone want to d/c an epidural?" and the students would look nervously at each other and wait for someone else to volunteer. Get the basics down (sterile procedures, how to admin different types of injections, etc) from your book and be the first to jump on whatever opportunities your instructor provides.
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  10. Visit  CuriousMe profile page
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    Quote from mee9mee9
    maybe my question should be do u actually get hands on experience in clincals if you pursue a bsn?
    It depends on the program. My BS program is a three year program, so we have three years of clinicals. I've forgotten the exact number, but we have in excess of 1,500 clinical hours.

    I've received plenty of "hands-on" experience.
  11. Visit  BCRNA profile page
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    It depends alot on the program like everyone has said. In general it depends on what your trained to do. Clinical skill focused on a little more in associate level. Management, academic is pushed more in BSN. You can't really answer which trains you better, you need to differentiate what it is you want to be trained for. My program had very little clinical training. I didn't know what working as a nurse was until after graduation, but I sure could write a paper about it, lol.
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  12. Visit  kimbo9 profile page
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    Where I live, the technical school that offers the ADN definately prepares students better in clinicals than the BSN at the university. The students in the ADN program were pretty much thrown in with the wolves in their first semester. There is no walking around with a nurse and watching like the students in the BSN program. I'm not saying that ADN nurses are better than BSNs, but they do get better prepared in my area.
  13. Visit  timskatesminiramps profile page
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    it definately depends on the program. I had a friend in BSN, while i was in ADN. We both had two clinical days per week. I was at the same hospital on the same floor for both days. and they were only for 8 hours, not 12. My friend had one day at the hospital, and one day at a prison, or community, etc. She was a lil more afraid of performing skills than I, but i can not say that is because of her program. I know that she took more leadership and theory style classes, which you will need to take when you go for BSN. And hospitals want you to go back for your BSN. At first, i dreaded the thought, but now, im excited to further my education, while getting on the job experience. good luck homie.
  14. Visit  Rach553 profile page
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    I know in my area ADN graduates tend to have more experience with the technical skills compared to BSNs. At the end of the day, the choice between which program to get into depends on your ultimate career goals. If you plan on going back to school later on to be a NP or teach it makes sense to go for the the BSN right away.


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