SICK of BSN Pedestal - page 16

Get off the Pedestal with the whole BSN vs ADN thing. A fact this is overlooked is that ADN does the same job as BSN and passes the NCLEX. Everyone then cried ADN is uneducated blah blah. WHY dont we... Read More

  1. Visit  Mr. Murse profile page
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    who cares? let your actions speak louder than words. I have my ADN and am often charging over many BSN nurses. Not saying I'm a better nurse, just that it doesn't matter. Education is what the student makes of it, and a job is what the employee makes of it. I've seen BSN nurses that scare the crap out of me, and ASN nurses who I'd trust my life to, and the other way around.

    Although I will admit I plan to finish the BSN just because I fear hospitals are tending to lean in that direction more and more.......
  2. Visit  Nola009 profile page
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    "Because an extra gym class doesn't deserve.it." --- Omy gosh. While that might not be exactly true, it was funny as hell and I really needed a good laugh. Thanks, fellow ADN
  3. Visit  hope3456 profile page
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    Like a PP pointed out, there needs to be standardization of the BSN programs, particularly the online ones.

    While all traditional ADN/BSN programs are regulated by the state BON and are "judged" by their NCLEX pass rates, what accountablity standards are there for RN-BSN programs?
    Last edit by hope3456 on May 11, '14
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  4. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    And nurses who graduated 20 years ago have learned something new on the job each and every day of those 20 years.

    Just because a nurse graduated 20 years ago and hasn't went to school since, that doesn't automatically mean their practice is out of date. As the field evolved, so have they.

    I would argue that knowledge comes from experience every bit as much as it comes from education.
    You took this post in the wrong context. Take a look back at the original post: it was a response to the argument that additional class work shouldn't be needed for students now because it wasn't needed 29 years ago. In my opinion, there is much much more to learn now.
  5. Visit  smartnurse1982 profile page
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    Quote from NurseGuyBri
    A 2 year degree is a vocational degree. It's a practical degree - An associate of a professional. I'm not putting any ADN's down, I'm saying that is what an Associates Degree is designed for. . That's why it's a BACHELOR's degree. Masters- You've mastered your subject. I could keep going. So, why is the associate degree- the vocational school prepared degree, not for a LPN? The bachelor, the professional, an RN? I hope the idea gets through.
    This is old,i know.
    Are you saying that an Associates Degree should be for Lpn's and the Bachelor's for Rn's?
  6. Visit  suanna profile page
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    Be thankful it is only BSN. In my area 1 Nurse in 4 is going back for thier MSN. Ther are even 3-4 PhD Nursing programs with a good following. In this area a BSN is what the lazy, non-motivated, sheep get for thier education. It dosen't matter if you have no use for a MSN-if you aren't "working on it" you just aren't a true professional.
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  7. Visit  hope3456 profile page
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    Quote from suanna
    Be thankful it is only BSN. In my area 1 Nurse in 4 is going back for thier MSN. Ther are even 3-4 PhD Nursing programs with a good following. In this area a BSN is what the lazy, non-motivated, sheep get for thier education. It dosen't matter if you have no use for a MSN-if you aren't "working on it" you just aren't a true professional.
    It is so sad that nurses have this kind of opinion of one another.
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  8. Visit  subee profile page
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    Hope 3456. Not to worry. I don't believe a word of that post. Very few nurses go for PhD's. Most terminal degrees are going to be DNS's or practice degrees, and from the dumbing down that I see occurring all programs, the dumbing-down will certainly evolve into dumbing-up in those cases.
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  9. Visit  GingerRN17 profile page
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    I will be doing a concurrent enrollment, going through the ADN program and at the same time going through a BSN program. The pre-reqs for the BSN are things like Nutrition and Psych and Statistics. Hardly gym class or baking! lol And I will be damn proud to have my BSN, knowing that I did the extra work, and will be able to move on and get my NP or CRNA.

    And the entire program, include pre-reqs and both ADN and BSN programs, will only cost me $22k
    Last edit by GingerRN17 on May 22, '14
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  10. Visit  excited1 profile page
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    Im entering my ADN program this fall and i am SO PROUD of myself. Then when i graduate, i will apply to an RN-BSN program and will be even more proud. After that, i will go on to get my CRNA (masters) and be soooooo amazed at myself. If you dont feel like you need a BSN or higher, great! That leaves more room for the rest of us who want one. Less people to have to compete with. If you are happy with your choices, there is no reason to minimize another by generalizing ALL nursing programs. This is a safe place to vent and find out the answers to questions "why, why, why". Rather then ranting, be open minded and ask questions why people feel the way they do about an ADN vs. BSN.

    We dont come here to judge one another. We come her to offer support and advice. If you are happy with what you have, OWN IT!

    If you want good responses, you could try starting a thread that shows you are proud of yourself and everyone else on here but looking into more information why some shun the ADN.

    Good luck to you in your career. It sounds like you are content. Have a beautiful evening. Life is too short to worry about everyone else is thinking or doing........well, except for your patients.
    Kaligirl02 and GingerRN17 like this.
  11. Visit  brandy1017 profile page
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    There really is no competition to get into an RN-BSN program. They are a dime a dozen and you have your choice of local or online, public, private, profit or non-profit. They all are happy to get their hands on the tuition money!
    Nola009, kalevra, and emtb2rn like this.
  12. Visit  excited1 profile page
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    Quote from brandy1017
    There really is no competition to get into an RN-BSN program. They are a dime a dozen and you have your choice of local or online, public, private, profit or non-profit. They all are happy to get their hands on the tuition money!
    Depending on what Masters program and school you choose, it does matter where you get your BSN and sometimes those RN-BSN programs are limited entry. Program accreditation is very important to some colleges. We just always have to be sure the schools we want will accept what we have.
  13. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    I just learned the local for profit school in my city is now offering an Rn program. They are in the process of getting their paper work approved by the BRN. Another profitable RN factory goes online.

    I seriously need to get in on this scam. Charging $40,000 a year for tuition and fees per student multiplied by 20 students a cohort. The funny thing is the school was started by a family of RNs all working in the same hospital.

    It just blows my mind how far away I can get from bedside nursing. I cannot imagine spending 20 years wiping poop. Time to work on my next move that will set me up for the next few decades. From what I have seen of the decline in treatment of RN staff by management, I do not want to be spend mire time than I have to before leaving.

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