RN vs. BSN - page 6

I am wondering what the differences in RN and BSN are. I am in the process of deciding to get my RN or go all out and get my BSN. Is there a big difference in pay for BSN, or do (small towns) just... Read More

  1. Visit  tferdaise profile page
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    *** respiratory therapy and physicians assistant come immediatly to mind.

    pa school is really a masters level program, most pa schools want you to have a undergrad degree before applying. rt's will change, slowly, there are undergrad degree's in respiratory therapy these days.

    *** i worked at two different hospitals during their "journy to magnet" and sat on the committee. in my part of the usa magnet hospitals are gaining a reputation as not being good places to work. especialy among er & critical care types. in my opinion magnet does not indicate qualiety, but rather an indication that managment is more interested in the appereance over substance.

    i couldn't agree more, this is why most hospitals are dumping jacho and going with dnv home / dnv over jacho. dnv looks at quality of care, not how clean the hospital looks. jacho has it’s back against the wall, they made it almost impossible for older hospital to pass their inspection’s. where i work, we dumped jacho 3 years ago and haven’t looked back since.


    i’m part of the boat for one entry level for nursing, which for me is the bsn, as it has been pointed out there are many studies that prove the bsn nurse gives better care then an adn and diploma rn. this debate has been going on for 40 yrs and the ana (american nurses association) doesn’t have the balls to step up and recommend this, however, they did speak up with a position paper on making np’s earn a dnp as the entry level degree. why haven’t they spoken up with a position paper about the bsn? just do it…
  2. Visit  timar profile page
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    BSN will do u good in the future.once u got ur degree and next u have to do ur nclex exam.after tht u will have good oppurtnity in the future to continue ur education.u can reach up to phd.and certain specialization.
  3. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    pa school is really a masters level program,


    *** except for all the bachelors degree and associates degree pa programs out there. physicians assistants, like rns have multiple entry options. i see this as a strength providing diversity not seen in other fields.

    i’m part of the boat for one entry level for nursing, which for me is the bsn,


    *** i am on a different boat. i believe that the diversity that multiple entry options give nursing to be an asset and strength. i am also not so sure that the bsn only push isn't really a back door anti men in nursing push since the majority of men enter nursing through the associates degree programs. if i was to get on board to one entry level for nursing it wouldn't be at the bsn level.

    as it has been pointed out there are many studies that prove the bsn nurse gives better care then an adn and diploma rn.


    *** i haven't seen any that i consider reliable or well done.

    this debate has been going on for 40 yrs and the ana (american nurses association) dozen't’t have the balls to step up and recommend this, however, they did speak up with a position paper on making np’s earn a dnp as the entry level degree.


    *** they made a huge mistake taking the position that dnp be the only entry to advanced practice. in addition to telling the whole world that we (nursing) has a huge self esteem problem, it send the message that nursing doesn't want some of the best and brightest and would rather see them go to other medical fields rather than nursing.

  4. Visit  bcandygurl profile page
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    Will master's level nursing still exist? Should these programs be phased out?
    Yes, master's nursing education will continue. The position statement on the DNP is a vision for the future of specialty nursing education. As specialty nursing education transitions to the doctoral level, the DNP Roadmap Task Force recommended that institutions consider reconceptualizing their master's degree programs to prepare generalists. The Clinical Nurse Leader, a national demonstration project launched to introduce a new master's level role into the health care system, is one model for master's education. This change in master's programs is consistent with the position statement endorsed by AACN members which states: "As the education of the generalist nurse is elevated to the master's degree level, it is reasonable to assume that specialty education and the education of those individuals prepared for the highest level of nursing practice would occur at the practice doctoral level." The transition date of 2015 for the DNP was set far enough in the future to give programs enough time to make a smooth transition and address the role of master's education.

    American Association of Colleges of Nursing | Frequently Asked Questions
  5. Visit  TUhopeful profile page
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    The ADN/ASN great option for people who are older and going back to school, want to save money, want to take less requirements, and may not be pursuing graduate school. The BSN is for people who have the drive to get into more competitive programs and take more classes to get jobs down the road in management or go to grad school. It's all a personal decision but there is really no need for BSN nurses to call ASN nurses unqualified and there is no need for ASN nurses to be defensive towards BSN nurses.
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  6. Visit  jambala profile page
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    go for RN
  7. Visit  minnymi profile page
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    Quote from tferdaise
    Why haven't they spoken up with a position paper about the BSN? Just do it...
    my guess would be because there are too many ADN educated nurses who have a voice and they are more worried about their pride so instead of raising the standards they keep them the same. some people take things way too personally as is evident on this very board. they feel that raising the standards will somehow take away their worth. heck, why don't we just go back to the good ole' days and start plucking prostitutes off the streets.....it's just nursing.
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  8. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    my guess would be because there are too many adn educated nurses who have a voice

    *** dang! how how can we keep them from having a voice? what right do they have to participate in any discussion related to professional nursing?

    and they are more worried about their pride so instead of raising the standards

    *** there has been no proposal or discussion related to raising the standard. the discussion is only about bsn as entry to practice.
    Last edit by PMFB-RN on Jul 4, '12 : Reason: spelling
  9. Visit  minnymi profile page
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    Quote from pmfb-rn
    my guess would be because there are too many adn educated nurses who have a voice

    *** dang! how how can we keep them from having a voice? what right do they have to participate in any discussion related to professional nursing?

    and they are more worried about their pride so instead of raising the standards

    *** there has been no proposal or discussion related to raising the standard. the discussion is only about bsn as entry to practice.
    uhh....requiring a bsn in order to practice is raising the standard.

    who said they shouldn't have a voice? don't take one part of what i said out of context (literally) and twist it to fit whatever on earth is inside your head.
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  10. Visit  licorice14225112060 profile page
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    Have a BSN. How will this benefit me?
  11. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    uhh....requiring a bsn in order to practice is raising the standard.

    *** that may be your opinion. i know some others share it but i don't and there are those who agree with me. i have a bsn. i feel like i got dumber as a result. the level of discourse in the program, at a well respected state university, was very disapointing. pathetic actually. not to mention entirely fluff. in my opinion bsn as the sole entry would be very damaging to nursing. i believe the different entry points create a diversity and strength not enjoyed by many of the other health fields. we would be lowering the standard.


    who said they shouldn't have a voice? don't take one part of what i said out of context (literally) and twist it to fit whatever on earth is inside your head.

    *** well i guess they should be allowed a voice. too bad their pride, and lack of education, keeps them from expressing it like professionals.
  12. Visit  minnymi profile page
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    Quote from pmfb-rn
    i have a bsn.
    after seeing how you jump on every bsn thread and get so personally offended by any statement that implies getting a bsn in this job market would be wise....

    quite frankly, i don't believe you.

  13. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from minnymi
    after seeing how you jump on every BSN thread and get so personally offended by any statement that implies getting a BSN in this job market would be wise....

    quite frankly, i don't believe you.

    *** No problem. You have obviously confused me with another poster since I am not, and never have been, or indicated in any way, personally offended by any statements that imply getting a BSN in this job market would be wise. Many comments to the contrary in fact. As I have said previously a number of times, in todays job market I suggest going directly for the BSN if possible.
    You have either confused my comments with those of another member, or engaged in "wishfull reading". That being when you read what you want to read, rather than what has been written.
    MSN soon!


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