A nurse has an RN but did not get a diploma or BSN

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    Hi folks: Quick question. If an RN became a nurse years ago but did not graduate from nursing school, either with a BSN or Diploma, what would they have to go through to get accepted into an online program to finish the BSN? The nurse of whom i am referring took the NCLEX a year before graduating in the BSN program, and never finished the BSN. He now wants to endorse to another state but cannot unless he "finishes nursing school". He has been an RN for 20 years.
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    Wut?


    Don't understand this. As far as I'm aware, you cannot sit for the NCLEX without completing edu. Was this person possibly an LPN?
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    Yes, this can occur (become RN w/o graduating the program). States like California have allowed this in the past. Not sure if they still do. Prior to completing the RN program, can sit for NCLEX and if pass, become licensed as RN, then never actually graduate the program. BUT, those individuals can only practice in that particular state.

    Then, if the individual wants to practice in another state, that state normally will not allow unless graduated from an RN program.

    OP, the person needs to speak with the state BON to see what they have to do to become lincensed in that state.
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    I'm guessing this person is a CA resident. There is a weird quirk of CA RN licensing law which allows LVNs who complete a significant portion of an RN program to sit for NCLEX. But they do so with the understanding that they will be unlikely to get licensed in any other state.

    From the CA BON website Board of Registered Nursing - Steps to Become a CA RN :

    " LVN 30 Unit Option - Designed as a career ladder for California Licensed Vocational Nurses wishing to become registered nurses. Takes approximately 18-24 months. No degree is granted upon completion. Most other states do not recognize California's LVN 30 Unit Option and will not issue RN licenses to these LVNs. Some LVNs prefer to complete an ADN program in order to obtain a degree and to have the flexibility to get an RN license in other states. Most ADN programs will give LVNs credit for some of the coursework they completed to become an LVN."

    As far as comleting the RN education - he/she will have to meet the admissions requirements of the school chosen.
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    Quote from sirI
    Yes, this can occur (become RN w/o graduating the program). States like California have allowed this in the past. Not sure if they still do. Prior to completing the RN program, can sit for NCLEX and if pass, become licensed as RN, then never actually graduate the program. BUT, those individuals can only practice in that particular state.

    Then, if the individual wants to practice in another state, that state normally will not allow unless graduated from an RN program.

    OP, the person needs to speak with the state BON to see what they have to do to become lincensed in that state.
    Thank you. That is exactly what happened. He was in a BSN program in California and that year all the students took the NCLEX approximately 10 months before finishing the BSN. He passed and has been working as a nurse ever since, never to return to the BSN program. He has tried to get a straight answer from the online BSN program, but has been unsuccessful. The BON has told him to go back to school to get his BSN or to go into an ADN program. He wonders if there are ANY states which he can endorse to without going back to school.
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    [QUOTE=netglow;6969573]Wut?


    Don't understand this. As far as I'm aware, you cannot sit for the NCLEX without completing edu. Was this person possibly an LPN?[/QUOTE

    I had thought this as well, but he was never an LVN. They allowed him to take the NCLEX as he was getting him BSN and he passed, went to work, and thought he would never have to have a BSN to move out of state.
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    Quote from enchantmentdis
    Thank you. That is exactly what happened. He was in a BSN program in California and that year all the students took the NCLEX approximately 10 months before finishing the BSN. He passed and has been working as a nurse ever since, never to return to the BSN program. He has tried to get a straight answer from the online BSN program, but has been unsuccessful. The BON has told him to go back to school to get his BSN or to go into an ADN program. He wonders if there are ANY states which he can endorse to without going back to school.
    That's what I figured.

    I highly doubt any BON will endorse this license unless he actually graduates from an RN program recognized by that state.

    He will probably have to take and complete certain courses as delineated by the BON and graduate before they will consider his request. Again, if one state says no, he'll have to contact the BON in other states.
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    Quote from sirI
    That's what I figured.

    I highly doubt any BON will endorse this license unless he actually graduates from an RN program recognized by that state.

    He will probably have to take and complete certain courses as delineated by the BON and graduate before they will consider his request. Again, if one state says no, he'll have to contact the BON in other states.
    Thanks, again. He was never an LVN, and says he can't afford to go back to school right now to complete the BSN; but needs to move to another state to assist in the care of a family member, but will need a nursing job lined up before leaving. He was never told by his school that he should finish the program or something like this might happen later. I'm sure this has happened to other nurses. What a mess.
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    what would they have to go through to get accepted into an online program to finish the BSN?
    Apply to whatever college the person is interested in

    Have transcripts of all previous college work sent to this school from the previous school(s)

    Wait for the college to get the transcripts and decide whether or not the credits will transfer in; at that point the college will evaluate whether or not the person can enroll and how many classes/credits will be needed to get a BSN degree from that institution. It will vary tremendously on things like accredition of all the schools involved, if one school uses semesters versus quarters, and so on. If you don't like the answer you get from the first school you apply to, try a different one. Lots of them out there with online BSN programs these days.

    Credits from previous college work technically never expire, although some schools may have policies related to their specific nursing program stating that X Y or Z subject classes (example: A&P) must have been taken within the last 5 years for transfer credit to be given. Every school is different though.

    Hope it helps.
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    [QUOTE=hgrimmett;6969613]Apply to whatever college the person is interested in

    Have transcripts of all previous college work sent to this school from the previous school(s)

    Wait for the college to get the transcripts and decide whether or not the credits will transfer in; at that point the college will evaluate whether or not the person can enroll and how many classes/credits will be needed to get a BSN degree from that institution. It will vary tremendously on things like accredition of all the schools involved, if one school uses semesters versus quarters, and so on. If you don't like the answer you get from the first school you apply to, try a different one. Lots of them out there with online BSN programs these days.

    Credits from previous college work technically never expire, although some schools may have policies related to their specific nursing program stating that X Y or Z subject classes (example: A&P) must have been taken within the last 5 years for transfer credit to be given. Every school is different though.

    Hope it helps.[/QUOTE

    Thanks for the info.


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