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Old Aug 07, 2009, 04:59 AM

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Originally Posted by BabyCatchr View Post
That is why I am considering getting my BSN since I already have a bachelor's. You should be able to find employment if everything stayed the same, but things seem to be changing drastically with our economy. And if/when you need to go back to school, your diploma credits very likely won't transfer for a BSN and you will have to start from scratch. Take a look at the curriculum for BSN nursing degrees at the universities where you might attend, talk with the advisors, and see for yourself. I have and have ruled out a diploma program for this reason.
RN to BSN programs are not designed for two year college RNs only, but ALL diploma and Associate nursing degree holders. There are thousands of diploma graduates that attended nursing programs all over the United States who have gone on to obtain not only a BSN, but MSN and PhD in nursing.
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No. 21
from vicki429
Old Aug 07, 2009, 06:14 AM

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Okay, that makes me feel slightly better....I'll get whatever job I can get and then slowly work towards a BSN because I do eventually want a MSN. It's just impractical for me to spend another 3 years getting a BSN at the moment. I've already wasted 4 years getting a pointless degree for something else. I need a paycheck.
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No. 22
from aromarn
Old Aug 07, 2009, 10:52 AM

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First, I want to say how thankful I am for all you!! The response was fast, welcoming and informative. The point I was trying to make was that having to have the same licence makes us qualify!! But I can understand the more clinical hours, but again I have a good amount of clinical hours as well. One of the nursing recruiter the reason she gave me was because they are considered to be magnet! And I think thats the number one reason, I think it looks good to have BSN's....... if she would have told me I don't have much clinical hours I would understand!! Thans why I am furstrating.

Another issue I have is that, like I said I am enrolled in the BSN program, orginally i did not put that in my resume, but upon seeing 2 hospitals preferr either BSN or enrolled BSN I put it in. However, one of teh hospitals I interviewd at first she sound excited that I am in the BSN program, then she stress that she is worried how I am going to manage going to school and a job.So I told her , if i get the job I am willing to take a semester off and I can arrange my shedule in the future. I hope she believed me, i am still wating for a phone call, a phone call she assured me i will get for 2nd interview with the nurse manager.

But now I am worried, actually putting enrolled in BSN program in my resume could hurt me, because they think they have to go extra mile to work my schedule so I can go to school( One of the other point the nursing recruiter pointed), not putting also could hurt because hospitals need to see that an individual is working to improve....etc. Anyway, I have 2 resumes now, one with one without!!I try to get as much info as possible about the place I apply to send which one!!what a headache!!

Anyway, thank you all again and I will update you guys in my progress!!!
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No. 23
from Otessa
Old Aug 07, 2009, 01:01 PM

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If they are looking at magnet status this may play into it. The number of nurses educated at higher levels "looks" better. I was on a committee at my old hospital and they looked heavily at how many nurses had PHd, MSN, MS, BSN, ADN and how we could have more tuition reimbursement so we could increase those going back to school for BSN and above.

otessa
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No. 24
from BabyCatchr
Old Aug 07, 2009, 11:32 PM

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
But the prereqs and/or coreqs and some classes taken at a diploma school may not transfer for your BSN or MSN because the diploma schools are not accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges. So you may have to go back and re-take courses you have already taken, costing precious time and money. My mom is an RN and this happened to her friend, as well as to a friend of mine.

Originally Posted by DoGoodThenGo View Post
RN to BSN programs are not designed for two year college RNs only, but ALL diploma and Associate nursing degree holders. There are thousands of diploma graduates that attended nursing programs all over the United States who have gone on to obtain not only a BSN, but MSN and PhD in nursing.
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No. 25
from hiddencat
Old Aug 07, 2009, 11:42 PM

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Originally Posted by BabyCatchr View Post
But the prereqs and/or coreqs and some classes taken at a diploma school may not transfer for your BSN or MSN because the diploma schools are not accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges. So you may have to go back and re-take courses you have already taken, costing precious time and money. My mom is an RN and this happened to her friend, as well as to a friend of mine.
I'd try to find a different RN to BSN program then- all of the programs in my area accept transfer credits easily, even from diploma programs. It sounds like your friends got a raw deal.
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No. 26
from NC29mom
Old Aug 08, 2009, 08:06 AM

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I live in NC and where I live, it is not an issue. ADN RN's are hired ALL OF THE TIME. The BSN RN's are usually hired for ADON positions or such. The ADN RN's have NO problem getting jobs in hospitals or nursing homes as 'floor nurses'.
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No. 27
Old Aug 08, 2009, 08:13 PM

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Originally Posted by BabyCatchr View Post
But the prereqs and/or coreqs and some classes taken at a diploma school may not transfer for your BSN or MSN because the diploma schools are not accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges. So you may have to go back and re-take courses you have already taken, costing precious time and money. My mom is an RN and this happened to her friend, as well as to a friend of mine.
There someone goes again! *LOL* Accrediting bodies are just that, and while they do provide many functions within nursing education and the profession, the last time one checked state boards of nursing, state education departments, and individual colleges/universities can and often do decide what credits will be accepted.

If one was going to put faith and stock into an accrediting body, would go with the NLNAC or CCNE, at least they are national bodies rather than regional.

Most RN to BSN programs lay down the same rules for nursing students as transfers or others, one must have completed a certian number of liberal arts college credits, hold a vaild RN license (or about to receive one), have graduated from an accredited college/insitituion (but not any one specific, though as you mentioned some schools may). Transfer nursing credits may be awarded either depending upon previous program's relationship (CUNY schools for instance will grant 24 credits of advanced standing for RN to BSN students who hold a degree from another CUNY nursing program), others will require on take and pass with a certain grade, the Nursing Regents College Examination at the Baccalaurete level in several areas of nursing.
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No. 28
from vicki429
Old Aug 08, 2009, 09:34 PM

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Originally Posted by DoGoodThenGo View Post
RN to BSN programs are not designed for two year college RNs only, but ALL diploma and Associate nursing degree holders. There are thousands of diploma graduates that attended nursing programs all over the United States who have gone on to obtain not only a BSN, but MSN and PhD in nursing.
I'm doing a Diploma program that has an agreement with a Community College here...the nursing classes are taken at the nursing school and the side classes at the other college.
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No. 29
from BabyCatchr
Old Aug 09, 2009, 09:28 AM
Updated Aug 09, 2009 at 10:16 AM by BabyCatchr

Default Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Yes, these courses should be standardized so they are acceptable across the board if you transfer schools. The diploma program that would be easiest for me to complete is not only not accredited by SACS, but not accredited with NLNAC either. Therefore, sadly it is not an option as I do not want to take chances when I go for further education. I've already been there, done that (had credits denied from previous institutions).
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