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| No. 10 | 
Aug 06, 2009, 10:48 PM
 Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
I'm graduating tomorrow with my BSN. My program was only one year, but in that one year, I had 910 clinical hours with my preceptor, 40 hours postpartum/antepartum, 40 hours mental health, 40 hours pediatrics, and 40 hours of community health.
My point is I have will actually have more clinical experience at graduation than someone with a ADN. If the hospital is going to pay both of us the same (or similar amounts) why wouldn't they hire those with the higher degree?
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Aug 06, 2009, 11:17 PM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
Agreed. I thought about working at the University of Penn; the recruiter stated "we only hire BSNs." I think some hospitals will hire RNS working towards their BSNs.
While cutbacks are hurting our profession, I think there remains quite a few openings out there depending on location.
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Aug 06, 2009, 11:33 PM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
This seasoned nurse with a BSN hasn't been able to find a job since applying for positions two months ago. The job market is just rotten for everyone right now - ADN, BSN, LPN, GN, experienced or inexperienced nurses - it's probably worse than it's ever been. It's a total buyer's (i.e., employer's) market and we just have to put up with it right now.
It will change (due to demographics, etc.), just not anytime soon. One possible exception: If swine flu hits really bad, they may suddenly start hiring 
Good luck to all of us,
DeLana
| | No. 13 |
Aug 06, 2009, 11:33 PM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
I am an ASN grad, my sister is a BSN grad, I KNOW for a fact I had more clinical time than her. Some programs have more, some have less. I took the NCLEX-RN one time and passed, my sister the BSN grad had to take it four times until she passed. I know plenty of ASN and BSN grads that know squat, and it's like, "How did you ever become an RN?!?!" More often than not, it's all about the person, and not the program. For instance, a hospital that has a choice between a new ASN grad and a new BSN grad might make the wrong choice and miss out just by picking the BSN grad just because they have a BSN, and the ASN grad could be way more smarter and a better employee than the BSN grad. People should be evaluated on more than just the degree they have.
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Aug 07, 2009, 12:00 AM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN Originally Posted by jpRN84  I am an ASN grad, my sister is a BSN grad, I KNOW for a fact I had more clinical time than her. Some programs have more, some have less. I took the NCLEX-RN one time and passed, my sister the BSN grad had to take it four times until she passed. I know plenty of ASN and BSN grads that know squat, and it's like, "How did you ever become an RN?!?!" More often than not, it's all about the person, and not the program. For instance, a hospital that has a choice between a new ASN grad and a new BSN grad might make the wrong choice and miss out just by picking the BSN grad just because they have a BSN, and the ASN grad could be way more smarter and a better employee than the BSN grad. People should be evaluated on more than just the degree they have.
Actually according to statistics the NCSBN BSNs have a higher NCLEX pass rate than ADNs so your example is of a small minority............ If position candidates are not chosen based on degrees than what would be the point of going to school.. some person of the street could be like " I'm a great person and I know how to put band aides on real good" but not be qualified or what the employer is looking for, the Degree is earned and not handed out and reflects the quality of education.
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Aug 07, 2009, 12:09 AM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN Originally Posted by pinkypie Actually according to statistics the NCSBN BSNs have a higher NCLEX pass rate than ADNs so your example is of a small minority............ If position candidates are not chosen based on degrees than what would be the point of going to school.. some person of the street could be like " I'm a great person and I know how to put band aides on real good" but not be qualified or what the employer is looking for, the Degree is earned and not handed out and reflects the quality of education.
I SAID people should be evaluated on more than just the degree they have. Meaning, they should take other things into consideration than just the person's degree. YES having a degree is necessary, BUT also evaluating other things should be done also.
| | No. 16 |
Aug 07, 2009, 12:12 AM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN Originally Posted by pinkypie Actually according to statistics the NCSBN BSNs have a higher NCLEX pass rate than ADNs so your example is of a small minority............ If position candidates are not chosen based on degrees than what would be the point of going to school.. some person of the street could be like " I'm a great person and I know how to put band aides on real good" but not be qualified or what the employer is looking for, the Degree is earned and not handed out and reflects the quality of education.
ALSO, the point of my original post was to show that each individual is different, and shouldn't be judged solely on whether they have an ASN or BSN.
| | No. 17 |
Aug 07, 2009, 12:33 AM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN Originally Posted by jpRN84 and the ASN grad could be way more smarter
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I agree that grads should be evaluated on more than their degree, but I think they already are. If a hospital decides they want a certain level of education, they have plenty of BSNs they can sort through to find the ones who have great recommendations, passed the NCLEX on their first try, had a high GPA in school, already have a few years experience, interviewed really well, can balance on one foot while patting their head and rubbing their belly, etc.
I think this is what DeLana_RN means when saying it's a buyer's market- hospitals can be as picky as they choose and still wind up with great hires that fit all of their requirements because they have such a large applicant pool to work with. Not all hospitals will choose to narrow their applicant pool by degree level, but currently the ones who do don't seem to be suffering for it.
| | No. 19 |
Aug 07, 2009, 01:09 AM
Re: Job market prefers BSN , turns away ADN
I have no problems with either having an ASN or BSN. I am glad I got my ASN when I did and wouldn't have done it any other way. I am going to be starting an RN-BSN program soon as I want to get my MSN eventually. If I didn't want my MSN though, I would not go back for a BSN.
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