Job market- ADN students being warned?

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Ok so I oriented a 4th semester nursing student from the local community college last week and this was for her "trends" class. I work in a state facility for DD population. We got to talking and she of course wants to work in a ER. I told her it is really competitive to get into the ER as a new grad and they are hiring mostly BSN's. she said she was going to work on that ... also eluded to being a single parent "so it might take me a while" she said. We are in a rural area and she said based on her clinicals she didn't want to work on the M/S units in the local 2 hospitals. She then said she might relocate to another state and I told her to check into the local job market - some places it is really difficult - if not impossible- to get nursing jobs. I told her that is why I relocated was b/c if the saturated job market in the neighboring state. She was like "really?" She said she didn't know that - she thought nurses could get jobs anywhere. She also stated that she was graduating from a class of 36 students - the class size had been increased from 24 previous year. Later she quietly asks me "so you think I'll have a problem getting a job?" I said "honestly, I'm not sure this area will absorb that many new grad nurses - a lot of times they only want to hire nurses with experience. She was a nice girl and I wish her the best. I told her my facility has a opening coming up and I would put in a good word for her if she was interested - however my manager just hired an experienced RN.

I know some schools are warning students - I worked with a BSN new grad last year who said the instructors warned the class "your best options right now for employment are the rural areas" as they knew most of the students wanted to move to the city.

Do you all think nursing students/ potential nursing students are being misled about the job market? Oh and I do say ADN students because we hear so much how hospitals are only hiring BSNs.

Specializes in Pediatrics.

The other key thing that potential ADN students need to insure about: does the school have an agreement or partnership with a BSN program. This is becoming more popular in my area. The school I teach at has one currently in place, and two more in the works. Students who are accepted to that program are dually enrolled, they are guaranteed a seat in the BSN program. That actually begin to take the upper level classes (chem, stats, etc) before they finish the ADN. When they finish the AD, they take NCLEX, and can actually say to an employer "I am enrolled in a BSN program", not 'I plan on getting it' (which was acceptable when I graduated.

Any ADN program that wants to survive is likely looking into these partnerships.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

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Any ADN program that wants to survive is likely looking into these partnerships.

*** OR, the "BSN required" fad will disapear as we have seen it do in the past. I suspect if the economy ever takes off many of the silly nursing fads like Magnet, scripting, BSN required, DNP "requirment" will go away.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

Or it won't.

Specializes in Pediatrics.

@PMFB-RN- where'd that quote come from? (Not from me!)

Specializes in Med/Surg, OB/GYN, Informatics, Simulation.

I doubt the BSN 'fad' will die out, to me personally it makes sense the demand more education since our nurses are the front lines of our healthcare. Other healthcare careers already demand higher education to practice so it makes sense for nursing to follow suit since we're more involved with hands on patient care.

To honest I don't see any of those things as fads; they are simply signs that our healthcare system is changing and we need to keep up. I want a nurse that's motivated to better him/herself with continuing education courses, getting board certified, or getting higher degrees because it indicates to me that they care about the practice they have. Eventually I think BSN will be the minimum required to practice; it might not happen for decades but that seems to be the direction our healthcare is moving.

The other key thing that potential ADN students need to insure about: does the school have an agreement or partnership with a BSN program. This is becoming more popular in my area. The school I teach at has one currently in place, and two more in the works. Students who are accepted to that program are dually enrolled, they are guaranteed a seat in the BSN program. That actually begin to take the upper level classes (chem, stats, etc) before they finish the ADN. When they finish the AD, they take NCLEX, and can actually say to an employer "I am enrolled in a BSN program", not 'I plan on getting it' (which was acceptable when I graduated.

Any ADN program that wants to survive is likely looking into these partnerships.

Yep, my ADN program has an agreement with almost every BSN school in the state that all the credits will transfer. They are also looking into actively partnering with one of the schools in the area. However, around here it's still fairly easy for an ADN grad to secure a job.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
The other key thing that potential ADN students need to insure about: does the school have an agreement or partnership with a BSN program. This is becoming more popular in my area. The school I teach at has one currently in place, and two more in the works. Students who are accepted to that program are dually enrolled, they are guaranteed a seat in the BSN program. That actually begin to take the upper level classes (chem, stats, etc) before they finish the ADN. When they finish the AD, they take NCLEX, and can actually say to an employer "I am enrolled in a BSN program", not 'I plan on getting it' (which was acceptable when I graduated.

Any ADN program that wants to survive is likely looking into these partnerships.

*** One problem I see with such partnerships is it can leave some grads between a rock and a hard place. Not elligable for positions in nurse residency programs that require a BSN when they graduate. then when they complete their BSN they won't be elligable for those same residencies since they have been RNs for two or so years and the program only takes new grads. I have known a few nurses in that exact position.

One wanted to avoid taking NCLEX until after earning her BSN to avoid being in this position, but the RN to BSN program required her to have an RN license to apply.

@PMFB-RN What state are you located in if you don't mind me asking?

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
@PMFB-RN What state are you located in if you don't mind me asking?

*** I Live in Wisconsin. Why?

Sorry for the late response. I only asked because a while back you said "My state pumps out enough RN grads every 5-6 years to fill every RN position in the state. That means there are a LOT nurses not working as nurses;" So I was just curious :)

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