Guess what RN's, you didn't need that college degree!! - page 2

This Sunday's Parade Magazine featured their annual report "What People Earn." Always very interesting but...if you look on page 4, there is a colorful box listing jobs that do not require a college... Read More

  1. by   P_RN
    It's true. You can become an RN in California without graduating.
    http://allnurses.com/forums/f283/wha...ml#post2107898
  2. by   TazziRN
    Then the website is misleading?
  3. by   widi96
    Okay . . a little off the subject, but dental hygenist was listed there also and I know my Aunt worked her butt off to get her degree from UMKC (University of Missouri - Kansas City). It is a four year Bachelors degree. But maybe it is like nursing where the degree isn't ABSOLUTELY necessary. Just wondering if anyone knew anything about that?
  4. by   llg
    Quote from TazziRN
    Then the website is misleading?
    I'm not investing the time to study the website, but based on the other thread ... Apparently LPN's who take a certain number of RN courses/hours in an approved program can take the NCLEX-RN in California even if they don't actually graduate. The school must send the transcripts to verify the courses taken, but the students don't have to meet all the requirements for a degree.

    It sounds like a very bad idea to me -- but then, I don't make the rules.
  5. by   SharonH, RN
    I didn't read the article but experience tells me that nursing was represented as a job that could be obtained easily without a college degree although we know that nurses without degrees are not the norm and do have limited opportunities away from the bedside as compared to nurses with degrees. So while the article may have been technically correct, it is misleading. Additionally I went to the website and looked at the salary survey. They featured two registered nurses, one made $76,000 and the other made $88,000. We all know that these are far above the average salaries for registered nurses. But if I'm considering a career in the field and reading this, then I'm thinking, "Hmmm......I can be a nurse with very little education and make a lot of money doing it. That's a cinch!" Yes, very misleading.
  6. by   crissrn27
    I just thought about this. Here in NC (at least 8 years ago) you could take the LPN boards after the 3rd semester of nursing school. Actually, I did that and worked as a LPN until I completed the program. So, if you failed out or dropped out or whatever, after the 3rd semester, you were still a LPN but didn't have a diploma or degree.
  7. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from i_am_julia
    how is it a misconception? an rn may practice with a diploma. when speaking of a degree, the article means bs or ba.
    :yeahthat:
  8. by   Athenas83
    Oh please, and that's why ADN and BSN programs are swamped with applicants. I've never heard of a diploma program to become a RN. Touting that you don't need a degree to become a RN is ridiculous.
  9. by   RN4NICU
    Quote from Athenas83
    Oh please, and that's why ADN and BSN programs are swamped with applicants. I've never heard of a diploma program to become a RN. Touting that you don't need a degree to become a RN is ridiculous.
    Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are many diploma nurses here on these boards - there is no diploma program where I live, but they are still out there. Also, in the spirit of articles like these (as other posters have noted)- college degree generally means bachelor's degree (BA or BS) - so an ADN would not be considered a "college degree" in that sense.
  10. by   donsterRN
    Quote from Athenas83
    Oh please, and that's why ADN and BSN programs are swamped with applicants. I've never heard of a diploma program to become a RN. Touting that you don't need a degree to become a RN is ridiculous.
    They do indeed exist. They're mostly in the northeastern US, but they do exist.
  11. by   Montessori Mommy
    Being three and a half weeks from finishing nursing school (ADN), I literally screamed when I read that today!! Nursing school is the most challenging thing I've ever done in my life, including my BS in civil engineering.

    Perhaps we should write to Parade and ask for a clarification....
  12. by   justme1972
    I think the kicker is that you may not "need" a college degree (as in diploma nursing)..but those programs are fading fast...but as far as a legal secretary...I would like to see someone get out of high school, have no networking connections, walk into a lawfirm and apply for a job...yeah, we probably know someone who has done it, but they are few and far between.

    That article, sends the wrong message.
  13. by   suzanne4
    Quote from llg
    California doesn't even require that you actually graduate from an nursing program (RN) to take the NCLEX-RN and work as an RN. There was recently a thread from someone who is moving to Tennessee who is upset because they won't accept her California RN license as is. She has to go back and finish school first.

    Though I agree that the article is a bit misleading unless they explain the situation a little more fully.
    CA has a thirty unit option that is only available to LVNs in California and cannot be endorsed to any other state. They have to be an LVN and can take just thirty additional hours, but we never recommend it, it can't be used anywhere else. They had to complete an LPN/LVN program and pass the NCLEX-PN and then complete the required hours. Still is another year of college if you do the math, but they are missing a couple of courses from it being the same as the ADN.

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