Frustrated in BSN program - page 8
by JZ_RN 12,912 Views | 128 Comments
So I am tired of getting treated like an ignorant, useless nurse because I only have an ADN and denied employment everywhere because I'm not a BSN. I get into a BSN program and start taking EXPENSIVE classes, on my own dime, and... Read More
- 2I am starting my last semester of my BSN and I totally agree with the OP... what a waste of my time, energy and money. I have learned ZIP ZERO from this program and I get so mad every time I have to fork out all that money every semester yet I will only get paid fifty cents more per hour once I finish it. It is all busy stupid work that I will never remember once I graduate. What a bunch of poo poo... though I can write one mean APA paper and do research like you would never believe! As if I am going to be doing any of that in my new job!! I got lucky though because in this area, no one will hire without BSN and I just got my first job and just graduated with my ASN (yes, I was in one of those concurrent programs where you do both programs at the same time, so just graduated with my ASN and now just finishing it up the BSN)... One more semester and I am done with the madness... Good luck all...
I think it goes back to the seasoned nurses who have moved up to management at some point in their career and now they decide that the rest of us have to have BSNs to join the workforce... it is really just another way to stick it to us or simply another subtle form of lateral violence... just saying..
- 1Nov 24, '12 by Aurora77Why the assumption that because there isn't a specific course title that subject matter is not being taught? How would it be possible to get through any nursing program without heavy doses of patho and pharm? I went through an LPN course, then LPN-ASN, and am now in an RN-BSN program. I'm taking my first official patho course this semester. I was expecting something incredibly hard. It's review. Don't get me wrong, I study and read the book, but there's very little content that is brand new. How can that be since I've never taken a class with that title before? really curious, for those who insist ASNs don't get education in patho or pharm, how would nursing courses actually be taught without including those two subjects?
I don't believe there is any such thing as wasted education. I have been shocked, though, by the actual lack of nursing courses in my BSN program. Up until this semester, it was paper writing, management type information. Useful, but not what I was expecting.
- 0Nov 24, '12 by Aurora77Quote from jacksonleoFor me that's the issue. I expected my BSN program to be harder, since it's higher on the academic food chain. If I had to rank my three programs, I'd say my PN program was by far the hardest and my proudest accomplishment. I am now really curious if I just attended an exceptionally difficult PN and ASN program and an way BSN program?
Well, I have a 4.0 so I guess I am doing ok...
- 1Nov 24, '12 by GeneralJinjurThe Colorado community college system requires all students to have a pathophysiology course as a coreq (even if they track out and become an LPN). Consequently, the state universities do not include a patho class in their RN-BSN programs. Just thought I'd throw that out there for those that are interested.
OP, I hope your classes get better. I would be pretty frustrated if I were in your shoes.
- 2Quote from Aurora77Yes... I expected the BSN to be applicable to nursing and to direct patient care but instead they have us do all this leadership, research and writing APA papers while no one in my class has even been a nurse for one day. How are we supposed to know how to lead and manage a team of nurses or implement evidence based interventions when we have not even been a nurse for one day???? but I know other nurses who are now seeking their BSN after having been a nurse for a while and they say the same, that it is mostly busy silly work that does not enhance their knowledge base...For me that's the issue. I expected my BSN program to be harder, since it's higher on the academic food chain. If I had to rank my three programs, I'd say my PN program was by far the hardest and my proudest accomplishment.
I want some of what these educator-people are drinkingLast edit by jacksonleo on Nov 24, '12 : Reason: add
- 0Nov 24, '12 by BostonTerrierLoverRNI always knew the LPN/LVN schools were tough. Every bridge LPN-RN in our program agreed. They worked 4-5 days a week, and schooled 5 days a week, and Exams were every Friday. No thanks. I wouldn't have survived that, and if I did, I would be at that level still because of academic vs. work burn-out. Not to mention, I had to work at least part-time, 3 semesters I worked full time (36hrs Baylor Nights). There wouldn't have been a chance that I could have swung that!!
- 0Nov 25, '12 by Ntheboat2I have always been told (by school administrators/staff) that if I go to grad school it will be easier because I have a knowledge base/bank to pull from.
So, I don't think it's any big surprise that people find their LPN courses or ADN courses harder in the cases where they go back to further their education.
An ADN-BSN program is not the same program nor is it supposed to be the same program as a traditional BSN route.
- 3Nov 25, '12 by Ntheboat2Quote from Aurora77Who assumed that?Why the assumption that because there isn't a specific course title that subject matter is not being taught?
I wonder why there's the assumption that just because you're a nurse then that means you can't possibly learn anything from a 5 month (?) in depth course on ANY given subject even if it was "covered" in your program.
I hope I never get to the point where I think I know everything and can no longer benefit from education.