Does the BSNs get paid more than ADNs hold true across the board mostly? - page 5

I'm wondering if the small differential for having a BSN vs an ADN is more common in the acute setting or is it the norm everywhere?... Read More

  1. Visit  Asystole RN profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN

    *** Do you have a sourse for that? Do you mean 50% of staff nurses? There are requirements for nurse leaders to have degrees. I sat on two hospitals Magnet comitties during their "journy to Magnet" and never saw any requirment for staff RNs to have BSNs.
    I have never seen a requirement for staff nurses to have BSNs either, the educational requirements were always focused on nursing leadership.
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  3. Visit  chevyv profile page
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    All the magnet hospitals around here want you to have your BSN. They won't even look at ADN and require their ADNs that were grandfathered in to be going for their BSN. They have a certain number of years to get it. Not sure what happens if they refuse to pursue.
  4. Visit  dirtyhippiegirl profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** Do you have a sourse for that? Do you mean 50% of staff nurses? There are requirements for nurse leaders to have degrees. I sat on two hospitals Magnet comitties during their "journy to Magnet" and never saw any requirment for staff RNs to have BSNs.
    You might be right. I was tired last night and possibly confusing what is technically expected from Magnet and what was arbitrarily set by the hospital as a goal to help achieve Magnet cert/re-cert. I do know that the hospital I work for has gone to a no-ADN hire policy as of this year and the expectation is that all existing ADNs will get their BSN by a certain date.
  5. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    All the magnet hospitals around here want you to have your BSN. .
    *** That is no suprise. Both are indicators of a certain managment frame of mind. One that values apperances over substance. Magnet doesn't require BSNs for staff nurses. However the same people who would be interested in Magnet are the same people who think all RNs need a BSN to be effective nurses.
  6. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    i'm in ky ky is changing their requirements to be an np or a nurse midwife from having a master's in nursing to a doctorate in nursing. if you aren't planning on getting your doctorate, and you don't want to be a nursing instructor, the bsn is pretty much a waste of time & money, as far as bachelor's degrees go....imho.
    *** so i have been searching for anything that would confirm this statement. nothing on the kentucky board of nursing web site indicates this. i did find this from northern kentucky universities dnp web site:

    "no, nurses with master's degrees will continue to practice in their current capacities. requirements by the state boards of nursing and the certification organizations have not changed their minimum educational standards for practice."

    and this:

    "4. is it the intent of the dnp to further expand the legal scope of practice for aprns?
    no, transitioning to the dnp will not alter the current scope of practice for aprns. state nurse practice acts describe the scope of practice allowed, and these differ from state to state. these requirements would likely remain unchanged. the transition to the dnp will better prepare aprns for their current roles given the calls for new models of education and the growing complexity of health care.

    4. is it the intent of the dnp to further expand the legal scope of practice for aprns?no, transitioning to the dnp will not alter the current scope of practice for aprns. state nurse practice acts describe the scope of practice allowed, and these differ from state to state. these requirements would likely remain unchanged. the transition to the dnp will better prepare aprns for their current roles given the calls for new models of education and the growing complexity of health care.

    http://healthprofessions.nku.edu/dep.../dnp/faqs.html

    i would think that a state university offering a dnp program would know if their state was changing their requirments for apn education.
    Last edit by PMFB-RN on May 23, '12 : Reason: Add link
  7. Visit  carrie_c profile page
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    It is eventually going to change. I just checked into NP, and the school told me it will change within the next few years, but they aren't sure when.
  8. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    It is eventually going to change. I just checked into NP, and the school told me it will change within the next few years, but they aren't sure when.
    *** What is going to change? The school is going to change to DNP for APNs, or the state is going to require DNP for APNs? I can see no reason for the change. The push for DNP is only from the AACN (nurse haters) and colleges of nursing (who stand to make a lot more money).
  9. Visit  Whispera profile page
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    When I went to nursing school, the rumor was that in a couple of years only BSNs would be able to become nurses. That hasn't happened, although it's still pushed-for. I don't see how a DNP can be required to be an advanced practice nurse, given how much APNs are needed. That would be the profession cutting off it's own nose!
  10. Visit  carrie_c profile page
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    The school told me that the state was going to start requiring DNP. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. Just saying what I was told...


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