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- Aug 8, '12 by tothepointeLVNQuote from BlueDevil,DNPI imagine a conversation with the OP would go something like this. At least I hope it would be that funny.Without a thesis statement, logically laid out premise, actual facts, and cited peer reviewed sources, the argument in the OP holds no merit.
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- Sep 21, '12 by avengingspirit1I agree with you rickbar. The BSN and Magnet Status push are two of the biggest scams perpetrated on the American public today. I am a male nurse in Phila., PA and have spoken with nurses who have been in the field for over 20 years. They have told me that in fact, there is no better care provided at Magnet Recognized Hospitals than non-Magnet hospitals. As one nurse put it; "Hospitals pay the ANA thousands of dollars for what is nothing more than a fake seal of approval." It is much like the "new and and improved" product marketing scam of the 70s where the content of the product was unchanged and a new and improved label was stamped on the box. As a matter-of-fact, many nurses have said conditions worsened once their hospitals achieved magnet status. These included having to float to other areas where nurses where not comfortable and being pulled form patient care to attend perfunctory meetings so management can tell the magnet evaluators that nurses are involved with decision making.
And because magnet hospitals must have a certain percentage of its nurses educated at the BSN level, hence we have the BSN scam. I agree with you that healthcare facilities love to hire nurses who are deep in debt. They are less likely to fight ridiculous patient to nurse ratios as well as being forced to float to areas of non-familiarity. As another nurse put it; "Nothing says keep your mouth shut like a $450 a month student loan debt." But there are other reasons. Many hospitals rent space to schools who offer RN-BSN programs. What better way to ensure seats are filled than for a hospital to require its nurses to earn a BSN. Also many in hospital management as well as physicians have affiliations with four year colleges and universities. I researched the IOM and found that over 90% of its members are in some way affiliated with a four year school.
What the uninformed public needs to know is that there is no clinical component in most RN-BSN programs and nurses will learn nothing that will help them with patient care. Rather they'll be writing a few more papers in APA format on current nursing issues and Theoretical Foundations. It is a racket that hospitals are telling the general public that they will receive better care because most of their nurses have BSNs and their hospital is Magnet Recognized.
I recently spoke to a young nursing student whose hospital based nursing program told them that unless they go on for a BSN, they will not be employable. This hospital rents space to an RN-BSN program. Need I say more.
- Sep 25, '12 by avengingspirit1I agree with you hey_suz that there is nothing wrong with advancing one's education. I just feel it should be a nurse's choice and not healthcare facilities telling their nurses that they must get a BSN within 3 years or risk termination. As I've stated in previous blogs, over 90% of IOM officials are in some way affiliated with a 4 year college or university. Given the premise that over 200 schools have closed their doors over the last 10 years (Nursing Spectrum, Jan. 9 2012), the IOM has a vested interest in trying to increase enrollments at colleges and universities by suggesting that all nurses should earn a BSN. And I can say for certain that once they have most nurses running back for a BSN, in five years they'll want to have them running back to school for a Master's. I have looked into RN-BSN programs and will not consider it unless it's reasonable since I already have a B.A. in business.
Can you please tell me which State University program you found that was under $10,000? That is the most reasonably priced program I've heard of to date.Last edit by avengingspirit1 on Sep 25, '12 : Reason: addition
- Sep 26, '12 by Jessy_RNCurrently my hospital pays 30 cents an hr for BSN. At the moment, I cannot afford or justify going back to school. I am a single mother working 2 jobs and cannot do it period.
If booting me out because of my ADN comes to push or shove, then so be it. My facility will lose a great nurse, preceptor and charge nurse. If I go back to school it will be for something non-nursing with hopes of securing a job elsewhere and continue earning a good ol' living until I retire or die.
- Sep 26, '12 by elkparkQuote from avengingspirit1How hard have you looked?Can you please tell me which State University program you found that was under $10,000? That is the most reasonably priced program I've heard of to date.
I picked the $10,000 figure I mentioned earlier more or less at random -- I knew that I paid a lot less than that, but I also went through the program many years ago and I assumed the cost had gone up since then. I just googled the school's website to verify the current cost and found that the BSN completion program is estimated to cost less than $5,000.
"Completing your BSN through WCU's RN to BSN program is very affordable! Tuition and fees for the entire RN to BSN Program are estimated to be $4800, including textbooks!" Western Carolina University - RN to BSN Program
The school is Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, NC, part of the UNC system -- but I'm sure there are lots of other reasonably priced BSN completion programs "out there." $50k or more for a BSN completion program strikes me as highway robbery, plain and simple.
- Sep 26, '12 by CrunchRNWGU of Texas claims it can be done for 7k.
- Sep 26, '12 by avengingspirit1I live in the Phila., PA area and when I Google RN-BSN programs the hits I get are mostly from this area such as the major universities, Thomas Edison, Walden......... But thanks for the WCU info, I will look into it. Still feel it's something I shouldn't have to do since I already have a Bachelor's in business along with my nursing license. And just like Jesse_RN, I'm getting frustrated and considering going into another field. Again, let me warn all nurses that once they have everyone running back for a BSN, they'll start pushing for the MSN five years after and then the Doctorate.
I went into nursing to help people; not to be a perpetual student and line the pockets of those that run 4 year colleges and universities. It is without a doubt the biggest racket going on today. And it was just confirmed again last night by a nurse acquaintance with 27 yrs experience who said; "It's sad but it's all about the money now."
- Sep 28, '12 by avengingspirit1Thanks CrunchRN.
I checked out WGU of Texas. I believe their website said it was approx. $3125 plus books and fees for each 6 month period. The length of time to complete the program will probably depend on what they will accept as transfer credits.