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No. 20
from nursel56
Old Aug 26, 2009, 04:51 AM
Updated Aug 26, 2009 at 05:22 AM by nursel56

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Originally Posted by EpiattIPNurse View Post
I have since left that position and started with another client. Like I stated before, I do not mind helping around the house and I do. I have swept that floors, cleaned the kitchen, dusted and everything for this new client. Today the mother made this statement to me... "could you make sure you clean everything up before you leave. I had to pick up the towels you used for "Shelly's" bath yesterday. The other nurse knows that I do not have time to do these things. I just really need someone to help me out with these little things because I don't feel I should have to do it. It is part of your job."
Yesterday I gave my pt a bath and then right after I got her dressed her aunt wanted to take her to the park and we left. You can not leave the pt alone for even one second. I forgot by the time we returned to the home. I was really shocked that she would say something like this to me considering every morning her and her whole family mess the whole kitchen up and leave dishes all over including knifes and I clean it up without saying a word about it. I do not think that I am cut out for home health. I can't deal with these people always wanting more from me. I think I am a good person and try to go out of my way to lend a helping hand whenever needed. I am tired of everyone wanting more!
I am sorry that you're going through this again with the new case. What some people fail to understand is that private duty or home health has it's own set of unique challenges, so what rules apply in home health are different than most other settings. Personally, I find it infuriating when a family on public assistance acts like you are their personal concierge payed for by the taxpayer's dime.

It sounds like your manager is enabling this process, which ends up humiliating you in front of the family. If your manager will not support you in resisting this, I don't really see what you can do, if you stay on that case. Normal managers set limits. And I set limits. I read all the patient's paperwork, they have signed. Most of them have to sign a "rights and responsibilities" page. At least in my state, it is not a one-way street. You have rights, too. Knowledge is power!

Since this has happened more than once, I'm wondering if by cleaning up their mess even once, they will begin to expect it. So even if you're a clean freak and want to be helpful, it might be more helpful in the long run to just quietly and assertively don't clean up other people's cr@p. If you feel the home is so bad that it's a health hazard, call social services. I would also sure hella not cleaned up the other nurses's disgusting G-tube mess.

Private duty can be very rewarding, and as you have said, the kiddos need good nurses! It's not always bad to say no, sometimes it's best to say no. Hope it gets better!!
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No. 21
from adv379
Old Aug 26, 2009, 09:34 AM

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I am a CNA working for a home health agency. I can understand where you are coming from...Obviously, Im am there to take care of my patient's adl's. In the care plan I am to "complete light housework as pertain to patient's living space, which includes light meal prep and cleanup" The patient coordinator made sure to emphasize to me to ONLY "tidy up" the patient's living area. I have been with the same patient for about 9 months.

NOW to the annoying, dirty part of the story. My patient has two ADULT sons living with him along with his wife and his wife's mother. They think I am their chauffeur/maid/cook/etc!!!!!! In the beginning, obviously, I wanted to make a good impression, so I would do extra things here and there, but they just took it to the next level. They even asked me to not wear scrubs anymore so I could take them places, and run their errands. NOT errands for my patient, for his mother-in-law and his wife. I mean I can't even explain how much extra I do. What I refuse to do is clean up after their lazy sons. One is 22 the other is 24. Only one works, they are dirty and lazy, they don't go to school, they make a mess and leave it there and in the begin I would clean it up because I had to use the kitchen after them but not anymore. I leave it there and purposely not wash their dishes etc.. THey even leave the fridge open, just open, they grab a drink and leave it OPEN!! HOW LAZY!!! IT SOOOOOO ANNOYING!!
The absolute worst days are mondays, they dont have anyone come on weekends and mondays their house is disgusting, especially the kitchen, and I cant work in filth so I end up cleaning up their mess. I am putting up with it because as a CNA its good pay and they are flexible with my schedule which is very important since I going into nursing school this semester coming up, and I have a young daughter.

Don't get me wrong, I understand completely that as a CNA some of these things are my duties, but seriously, they take advantage of me.

thank you for letting me vent.
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No. 22
Old Aug 26, 2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by adv379 View Post
I am a CNA working for a home health agency. I can understand where you are coming from...Obviously, Im am there to take care of my patient's adl's. In the care plan I am to "complete light housework as pertain to patient's living space, which includes light meal prep and cleanup" The patient coordinator made sure to emphasize to me to ONLY "tidy up" the patient's living area. I have been with the same patient for about 9 months.

NOW to the annoying, dirty part of the story. My patient has two ADULT sons living with him along with his wife and his wife's mother. They think I am their chauffeur/maid/cook/etc!!!!!! In the beginning, obviously, I wanted to make a good impression, so I would do extra things here and there, but they just took it to the next level. They even asked me to not wear scrubs anymore so I could take them places, and run their errands. NOT errands for my patient, for his mother-in-law and his wife. I mean I can't even explain how much extra I do. What I refuse to do is clean up after their lazy sons. One is 22 the other is 24. Only one works, they are dirty and lazy, they don't go to school, they make a mess and leave it there and in the begin I would clean it up because I had to use the kitchen after them but not anymore. I leave it there and purposely not wash their dishes etc.. THey even leave the fridge open, just open, they grab a drink and leave it OPEN!! HOW LAZY!!! IT SOOOOOO ANNOYING!!
The absolute worst days are mondays, they dont have anyone come on weekends and mondays their house is disgusting, especially the kitchen, and I cant work in filth so I end up cleaning up their mess. I am putting up with it because as a CNA its good pay and they are flexible with my schedule which is very important since I going into nursing school this semester coming up, and I have a young daughter.

Don't get me wrong, I understand completely that as a CNA some of these things are my duties, but seriously, they take advantage of me.

thank you for letting me vent.
sorry, i do understand your need to keep your job. but, just do what you have to do..tidy up. just do your job as described in you job description...good luck in your future nursing indeavers!
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No. 23
Old Sep 02, 2009, 02:44 AM

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Unfortunately these are the types of things that go on in private duty nursing. I've been there. I had a case that the family had 20+ cats in the home (I kid you not) and at times (like when they went on vacation and left pt at home) I was expected to clean the litter boxes. I think not. And I told them, and my manager that. I have stepped in cat poo when I went to use the bathroom because one had left a present in front of the toilet and I didn't see it. I was expected to wash the household laundry, including special care items that did not belong to the pt. I was so frusterated with this case, but because I needed a job, afraid to leave. Thankfully I have since moved on, and I am happy where I am now. All I can advise is that keep trying cases until you find one that 'fits'. Good luck!
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No. 24
Old Sep 09, 2009, 12:12 AM

Default Re: I'm a nurse. Not a housekeeper!
Originally Posted by EpiattIPNurse View Post
I have since left that position and started with another client. Like I stated before, I do not mind helping around the house and I do. I have swept that floors, cleaned the kitchen, dusted and everything for this new client. Today the mother made this statement to me... "could you make sure you clean everything up before you leave. I had to pick up the towels you used for "Shelly's" bath yesterday. The other nurse knows that I do not have time to do these things. I just really need someone to help me out with these little things because I don't feel I should have to do it. It is part of your job."
Yesterday I gave my pt a bath and then right after I got her dressed her aunt wanted to take her to the park and we left. You can not leave the pt alone for even one second. I forgot by the time we returned to the home. I was really shocked that she would say something like this to me considering every morning her and her whole family mess the whole kitchen up and leave dishes all over including knifes and I clean it up without saying a word about it. I do not think that I am cut out for home health. I can't deal with these people always wanting more from me. I think I am a good person and try to go out of my way to lend a helping hand whenever needed. I am tired of everyone wanting more!
Wow, I know how this feels. I thought I had it bad, but its nothing compared to you. Sorry, You're having problems with these cases or clients families. This is why I moved myself around with different families til I'm happy. But, again after 2 years with this family, they too are getting to used to me being there. I've been asked to do stuff that I don't mine, but lately I've been a counselor, a cook, and a hairdresser. Recently the oldest daughter moved back home with her 3 year old daughter and I'm asked by the lil one if I can make her food. Her mom's at school, and gramma is stil asleep. So she's awake wandering the house when I get there. I feel soo bad for her. I've brushed her hair and colored with her too. Mind you, my pt is asleep or sitting in his w/c and nothing needs to be done. Bt, this is getting old and I've told them already I can't. They got bothered about it. So, I'm keeping my eyes open for my next family.
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No. 25
Old Nov 18, 2009, 08:40 AM

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I would just like to know when did doing laundry become a part on nursing in the home? I just refuse to do laundry, but I think it has to do with the region u are in. In nj I never did laundry and nobody asked me to,but in the south its like its expected of you. I always worked for agencies with medicaid clients. If the family can't do the clients laundry,maybe they should reconsider ltc. Oh, and since I don't do laundry,the family is telling the office the 7 to 3pm nurse is doing more than the 3 to 11pm nurse. But as I recall, doesn't morning shifts always do more than 3 to 11pm even in hospitals and nursing homes?
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No. 26
from nursel56
Old Nov 18, 2009, 04:27 PM

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Doing laundry has never been part of nursing in the home in my area. Maybe a small amount for the actual patient--- for lazy family members? In fact, I would have a hard time biting my tongue when around people who would expect that, to be honest.
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No. 27
from tewdles
Old Nov 19, 2009, 08:06 AM

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As health professionals in this setting we set ourselves up for unreasonable expectations by "trying to be nice" in the beginning. When we start out performing duties which are not related to our purpose there we create an "expectation" that we and others will continue those duties. Light housekeeping means keeping the immediate area picked up and safe for the patient. Laundry should never include the items of other family members...never. Washing dishes is only your function if you dirtied them in caring for the patient. If you bathe the patient, tidy the bathroom after the bath...that does not mean clean the toilet. It is not your job to enable the slothful behavior of some patients. There are co-dependent healthcare workers who will be happy working in those situations. If you are not one of them move on, not all consumers of private duty nursing are abusers.
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No. 28
Old Nov 19, 2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tewdles View Post
As health professionals in this setting we set ourselves up for unreasonable expectations by "trying to be nice" in the beginning. When we start out performing duties which are not related to our purpose there we create an "expectation" that we and others will continue those duties. Light housekeeping means keeping the immediate area picked up and safe for the patient. Laundry should never include the items of other family members...never. Washing dishes is only your function if you dirtied them in caring for the patient. If you bathe the patient, tidy the bathroom after the bath...that does not mean clean the toilet. It is not your job to enable the slothful behavior of some patients. There are co-dependent healthcare workers who will be happy working in those situations. If you are not one of them move on, not all consumers of private duty nursing are abusers.
I agree totally! Thanks for your post! One of the biggest problems I encountered in my years doing private duty was demanding families with unrealistic expectations CAUSED/CREATED by the nurses who totally lacked a professional boundary!! It rather gave me a low opinion of our profession (nursing) to see so many nurses who seemed to lack basic professionalism. Co-dependent behavior galore! I wonder if the nature of private duty cases is that they ATTRACT nurses who have major co-dependency and martyr issues???? Even scarier was that these nurses did not "get" why their behavior was a problem!
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No. 29
from nursel56
Old Nov 19, 2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ArwenEvenstar View Post
I agree totally! Thanks for your post! One of the biggest problems I encountered in my years doing private duty was demanding families with unrealistic expectations CAUSED/CREATED by the nurses who totally lacked a professional boundary!! It rather gave me a low opinion of our profession (nursing) to see so many nurses who seemed to lack basic professionalism. Co-dependent behavior galore! I wonder if the nature of private duty cases is that they ATTRACT nurses who have major co-dependency and martyr issues???? Even scarier was that these nurses did not "get" why their behavior was a problem!

I'm not sure if the nature of private duty attracts them initially-- but I've encountered stuff that makes my jaw drop. The worst-- nurses who would climb into bed w/ a young male paraplegic pt. "because he really needs the human contact" nurses who try to engage the other nurses in a fraud scheme,and just plain nutballs that can't fit in to a team environment. More common than that is nurses who borrow money from patients, embroil themselves in family dynamics, etc. and quite common unprofessional behavior such as a male nurse changing into a bathrobe at work, running around barefoot, and a forty-something nurse wearing a brightly colored Hannah Montana nightshirt to work.
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