Would you give away a semester's worth of notes??? - page 3

hi everybody! looking for some opinions... i'm taking a psych class this semester as a pre-req to nursing school. i'm also taking micro. well, one of the girls in my micro class asked me if--when... Read More

  1. by   elizabeth321
    Quote from VistaGirl
    I would let someone use(copy) my notes if they were an "active" student. If it was someone who never came to class, and then wanted to just use someone elses work that would be a no go on my part.

    You all give your notes so much power.

    Liz
  2. by   coolvibesRN
    If you don't feel comfortable giving her the notes, maybe you can tell her to make copies.
  3. by   Jules A
    There was a girl in my class that wasn't an "active" student and many people didn't want to help her. Well that is just pathetic because she was a single Mom trying to scrape together a better life for her child by working full time and going to nursing school. Funny thing is that she was far brighter than most of the stingy people that wouldn't help her.

    Scary that nurses or future nurses are so judgemental. Sheesh, I sure hope that Liz or someone like her is in my next class.
    Last edit by Jules A on Apr 8, '07
  4. by   Pumpkin1621
    Quote from Jules A
    Sheesh, I sure hope that Liz or someone like her is in my next class.
    I thought this conversation was about giving your notes away to someone who is taking a class that you have already completed, not someone who is currently in your class.

    As far as that is concerned I have no problem lending notes to someone who is absent. Currently there is a student who will be absent for 3 weeks, and I am taking notes for her and recording the lectures for her. I consider that different from giving away your work at the end of the semester.
  5. by   AnnieOaklyRN
    I would not give them away, especially to someone who may just be using you for your brains and motivation. She may also want them so she does not have to attend the class as often and do the work involved. Remember you had to work hard to write those notes and tey are YOUR notes, and she needs to write her own.

    Swtooth
  6. by   roxxy3773
    I don't have any problem with it. I have never referred to any of my notes that I have kept. If I need to find something I would be more likely to search the internet or find a textbook where I could just flip to the index and find the topic much easier than scouring my notes. If for some reason I really wanted to keep it (which may happen in my nursing classes) then I would just let them make a copy. I definitely don't think this is even remotely cheating, but I can see if someone is protective over their notes.

    One of the earlier posts where you were allowed to use your notebook in your labs and it was never returned, that would make me really mad and I could see in that situation that I might be hesitant about giving that away. When the notes can actually be used in testing then I might feel a bit differently...but when it is to help another student to study and the notes are an additional source for studying then I have no problems. The reality is that if they want to do well in the class then they should also be taking their own notes, I think writing the material down is an excellent way to learn it, so it would not benefit the student in most cases if they just took notes from a student and didn't do anything else. I'm always for helping people out when I can as long as it isn't detrimental to me.
  7. by   MB37
    I would assume that most profs don't use the same exams and assignments from semester to semester - if they did, I am certain that Greek and other social organizations with members from multiple years would have old copies of everything! I have one prof that I think does, but we take our exams online and are never allowed to have a copy of the test, or to access it again once it has been submitted. To even find out what questions we miss, we must go meet with the TA and are not allowed to write down questions or answers. Different semesters of a class, like different sections, are going to cover at least slightly different subject matter depending on new info that comes out and what time allows. Any of us good students that do miss a class from time to time know the value of taking our own notes. I do ask people for theirs if I miss, so I'll have something, and am always happy to have someone photocopy mine, but it's no substitute for writing it down yourself in a way that makes sense to you and in your own handwriting. No one is going to get an A in a class just because they xeroxed your notebook, but it help get them a couple of extra % if they need it somewhere along the line. IMO...
  8. by   catzy5
    Quote from cicigirl
    hi everybody! looking for some opinions...

    i'm taking a psych class this semester as a pre-req to nursing school. i'm also taking micro. well, one of the girls in my micro class asked me if--when the semester is over--she could have my notes from my psych class.

    we're not by any means close. i just met her about (maybe) a month ago. we've studied together a couple of times but we're not great friends who hang out together or anything.

    has anybody ever asked you to do this--give them your whole semester's worth of notes once your class is over???

    when she first asked me i said, "sure". i figured, "what the h$ll do i care? i can't stand psych and i'll be glad when it's done."

    but now i don't know. i'm starting to feel like i might be putting myself in a position of being used. already this person has asked me three times to see my micro class notes so she can write stuff down that she missed b/c she was late or whatever.

    and at first i didn't mind, but then i started thinking--hey, get your own notes, or at least ask somebody else once in a while. she has a few friends in class, why always ask me???

    am i overreacting and just being stingy in rethinking giving her my whole semester's worth of psych notes or is her request just over the line?????

    sorry it's a bit long, guess i just needed to vent...:trout:

    would you give this person your notes? :innerconf

    i have had several people give me their notes and some have asked for mine, i have found others notes a huge help and i try to help others when i can too. if its something i will still need in the future though i make sure its either going to someone i trust or make copies for them. my ap teacher this semester has asked for my notes and flash cards that i have made, i have no problem sharing my stuff as its been shared to me.
  9. by   catzy5
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Maybe. It never hurts to be nice to people. You just don't want to be taken advantage of. You might share notes, for instance. Is she good at taking notes for some other class you might be weak in?

    I started a webpage and put all my nursing notes on it for any classmate who wanted them, last time I went to school. The benefit for me was in retyping the notes. I learned the material a lot better, so sharing was most certainly not a problem and I made a lot of friends, too. They just thought I was the most generous person they knew.

    Eventually, a couple of other girls gave me their notes and I typed them into the website, so I had a lot of good material and passed with flying colors.

    Oh, and I got a couple of really neat thank-you cards and stuff at graduation. It was really touching that some girls credited those notes with helping them pass (though you know all the notes in the world aren't going to help if you don't study).


    I am always laughing many of my class mates have a friend in this one girl, she will be applying this semester for the program, I have several copies of this girls notes for a several different classes, I in turn also share them with others so i am always joking about this girl we have never met who's coat tails we are all riding.
  10. by   aerorunner80
    I would never give away a whole semesters worth of notes! You worked hard for those notes. You paid for the class and now someone wants you to give them away for free? I've had people ask me if they could copy my notes from a week that they missed, I typically oblige, but they usually can't understand a note I take. I would tell them to go take the class themselves and take their own notes. It just rubs me wrong when people try to take the lazy way around things.

    Keep your dignity and your notes. Just say no.
  11. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from Pumpkin1621
    If I were to give my class notebook to another student this is what would happen. They would throw 90% of it away, keep the homework assignments, keep the graded essays with instructor comments, and keep the test reviews with convenient marks on what I missed on the tests to prepare for the final. Then they would be able to copy all written assigments and know prior to tests what is on them. You are right that isn't cheating.
    Uhhh...the OP never said anything about homework assignments or graded essays with instructor comments or test reviews. She was talking strictly about class notes.

    If you were trying to insinuate that sharing notes is cheating, then I disagree. Homework and other assignments--that's another issue.
  12. by   prinsessa
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Uhhh...the OP never said anything about homework assignments or graded essays with instructor comments or test reviews. She was talking strictly about class notes.

    If you were trying to insinuate that sharing notes is cheating, then I disagree. Homework and other assignments--that's another issue.
    I agree...I would never give away old tests or quizes, but I would maybe let someone have my notes. If I didn't want to give them away, I would let them copy the notes. I had someone offer to buy my notes once (I usually type them out neat and in order so I can read them)...I felt strange about it though and said no. I don't know why I didn't feel comfortable about it at the time though...
  13. by   Pumpkin1621
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Uhhh...the OP never said anything about homework assignments or graded essays with instructor comments or test reviews. She was talking strictly about class notes.

    If you were trying to insinuate that sharing notes is cheating, then I disagree. Homework and other assignments--that's another issue.
    Do you take notes or mark your notes when the teacher is reviewing the test? I do. My homework and essays are mixed in with my notes. That is what I meant.

    Would you send a mass email out that anyone could read (including professors) and say hey guys I finished Biology does anyone want all of my notes from that class?

    Anything that puts other students at a disadvantage while giving someone else an advantage is cheating in my opinion. It is not fair for one student to get class notes from a student who has already taken the course if the other students do not recieve them. It gives that individual more freedom do certain things like miss class not take their own notes. While they don't have to work hard, the rest of their classmates do.

    It doesn't matter to me if anyone decides to give out notes or gets notes. It is "my ethical belief" that it is cheating, so "I choose" not to partake in it. Each person has to be their own judge. If you still believe it is not cheating, then that's fine. We can agree to disagree.

close