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So many of the stories I read are "take your prerequisites and wait 1-3 years for a cohort." My problem with this is that life has to be put on hold while waiting, you cannot take on any substantial work because you might be pulled away in 6 months or 2 years.
Am I simply not seeing schools that, once accepted, give the full education? Or is there a historical or practical reason that I'm overlooking?
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- Jan 12, '12 by HeartsOpenWideYou need to know what you learn in re-reqs before you get to nursing school. Its also a way to weed out students. If you can not do well in the basic of basic stuff, your not going to fend well in nursing school. And what is with the waiting? I got into my nursing program right away. Apply to a school that is merit based, and have excellent grads of course.
- Jan 12, '12 by ixchelThe 2 year program local to me allows you to enter the program competing with your ACT score, and you would then take the prereqs at the same time as the nursing classes. Honestly, it seems nuts to me. I took a&p with no background in bio or chem and it floored me. I would have failed out of the program in a heartbeat if I took the nursing classes on top of a&p and whatever other prereq they could fit me in. You really need the foundation first. As for why BSN programs might not admit a person to go straight through, well, if if turns out you suck at school, I guess they don't want you to take the spot of someone who is good at it.
- Jan 12, '12 by leenakNursing programs are highly impacted and you will tend to see schools add to their pre-requisites as a means to weed out further students. One of the programs that I'm applying for gets 800 applications per year for 100 spots. These are people who have finished all the pre-reqs. If they were to allow those who hadn't completed the pre-reqs, imagine how many applications they would get.
When I did my first undergrad degree, the program I got into was competitive but still only 30% of the students made it to the second year. It takes a lot of resources to have a high weed out program as you need to ensure their are enough professors to teach the entry level courses but a lot less to teach the upper division courses. It seems a lot of nursing programs would rather not weed out as many students and therefore ensure the students are prepared in some manner by taking the pre-reqs.
- Jan 12, '12 by lrobinson5I thought that every BSN program out there has it all rolled in to one. Yes, it may be broken up into a "pre-nursing" major and then you start clinical in the second half of your degree, but it does exist. Now for people that didn't go straight to a 4-year university out of high school, I know that they are few and far between. I would say that most for-profit programs actually encourage you to complete the pre-reqs at their school, that way they make more $$.
- Jan 12, '12 by sali22there is.. a few in my immediate area.
my community college, but there are developmental classes if you didn't finish high school or if you scored low on your entrance test.
And some of the hospital diploma programs dont require any pre-reqs.Last edit by sali22 on Jan 12, '12 : Reason: added details
- Jan 12, '12 by abiklagsi'm in a ADN program. i took A&P I and II, micro, developmental psychology my first year. my second year i'm taking ethics. others i transferred in from HS credits or cleps. those are all 'co-reqs'. the only pre-reqs we have are HS level math, bio and chem or 1 semester each at the college level. other places i looked into like community colleges wanted a semester of chem before applying which i was unable to do cuz i was away for the year. so i applied to places that didn't require it. i applied to 2 places, got into both and chose the one with a better name. and very happy i went this route because i'm graduating the end of may which would not of happened if i had to do pre reqs
- Jan 12, '12 by WantToBeMidwifeI think most BSN programs do wrap it into one, but of course that's b/c it's 4 years. ADN is only 2 years, but u need those extra classes and it's obviously going to take more time. If you didn't know A&P beforehand you'd fail out immediately anyway. Does that make sense? It does in my head lol!
- Jan 12, '12 by EMT-newbieAll good points, thank you. I think the current markets in many locations are heavily distorted which is why I can't make sense of how things are set up.
- Jan 12, '12 by KelRN215There are. They are the traditional BSN programs. I went into mine straight from high school and everything that would be considered a "prerequisite" for an ADN program was built into my program. I took A&P I & II with labs and Chemistry (also with lab) my freshman year and then Microbiology my sophomore year. Gen Ed requirements were part of the university's core curriculum.