Unprofessional School Orientation - page 2

I was accepted to a local Community College RN program, and today was the orientation. Only 10 students were there, apparently we were the early acceptance group as no other students had been... Read More

  1. Visit  Dakovich profile page
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    this school in general has caused me many eyes wide open moments. I've never before seen such irresponsible, rude, and immature fellow students. The teahcers were fine, but I still can't believe how a good portion of the students acted. My favorite quote was from one lady who kept showing up late to class and finally was locked out by the instructor, her response: "we adults, we should be able to show up at least 15 minutes late, WE ADULTS!"...I just stood there with my mouth open slowly laughing to myself. Lady, adults are supposed to show up 15 minutes early, not late. This type of attitude seemed to permiate with a good portion of the students I encountered. And like you said, thats just one more person I don't have to worry about in terms of competition for a job.

    IF YOU'RE EARLY, YOU'RE ON TIME
    IF YOU'RE ON TIME, YOU'RE LATE
    IF YOU'RE LATE, DON'T BOTHER SHOWING UP
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    Quote from Dakovich
    this school in general has caused me many eyes wide open moments. I've never before seen such irresponsible, rude, and immature fellow students. The teahcers were fine, but I still can't believe how a good portion of the students acted. My favorite quote was from one lady who kept showing up late to class and finally was locked out by the instructor, her response: "we adults, we should be able to show up at least 15 minutes late, WE ADULTS!"...I just stood there with my mouth open slowly laughing to myself. Lady, adults are supposed to show up 15 minutes early, not late. This type of attitude seemed to permiate with a good portion of the students I encountered. And like you said, thats just one more person I don't have to worry about in terms of competition for a job.

    IF YOU'RE EARLY, YOU'RE ON TIME
    IF YOU'RE ON TIME, YOU'RE LATE
    IF YOU'RE LATE, DON'T BOTHER SHOWING UP
    Oh, my. .I begin to have inklings of sympathy for the instructors if they have to waste time on remedial crap like that. Then, again, I've always been kind of impatient with the "uhh, I forgot my pen" types. There are some med student and nursing student blogs out there that are hilarious. I think that helped the anonymous authors keep their sanity.

    An intact sense of humor and a supportive family help alot!!
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  3. Visit  caliotter3 profile page
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    My uncle was an airline pilot. When he got laid off from his job with the airline, he never found another job and passed away lonely and forgotten. Many are leaving the airline industry for work that seems to be more stable. Unfortunately, nursing is not necessarily that good a choice. My advice to the OP would be to reevaluate this program. Were you admitted to any other program? I would not want to face that negativity if I could help it. Good luck anyway.
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    Quote from Dakovich
    IF YOU'RE EARLY, YOU'RE ON TIME
    IF YOU'RE ON TIME, YOU'RE LATE
    IF YOU'RE LATE, DON'T BOTHER SHOWING UP
    Agreed.

    This is either important to you or it isn't.

    Anyone can be late once in a while but repetitive tardiness is a sign that you don't care.
  5. Visit  jo'ee profile page
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    Personally, I feel that orientations and the application process is a huge indicator of how the nursing school is run.
    I am currently at community college finishing up my pre reqs. I applied to this community college and several other programs as well. The community college is so unorganized in every aspect. They lose your transcripts, can't get anyone on the phone in the admissions office, they do not return phone calls, lose credits earned and make horrific mistakes in information on transcripts. The other programs were so organized and professional. I decided not to apply to the cc as I see it as an indicator of how their nursing program is run. I work very hard and have no patience for lazy people in administration at the cc. So off to a more organized school and good riddance to the cc.
    As for the attitude of the people at your orientation, "when people show you who they are, believe them the 1st time."
    Good luck to you in your career change.
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  6. Visit  HeartsOpenWide profile page
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    Quote from Dakovich
    Long story short they huffed and puffed like 6 year olds during the orientation whenever they encountered a question from any of us. They were not clear with their instructions or explanations and at one point another student asked for clarification and was told "I just said that, didn't you hear me?!". His was a simple question about folders, the teacher said to get "three big notebooks", he asked "do you mean spiral or 3-ring" and she got visibly upset and kind of snapped at him.
    Maybe they are afraid your group is expecting to be spoon fed. Yes, that was a simple question. I understand why they would be annoyed, its a binder; if people can not even figure out what kind of paper to get they are probably worried about what other "simple questions" there are going to be when school actually starts. Just trying to see it from the instructors perspective.
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    Quote from nursel56

    An intact sense of humor and a supportive family help alot!!

    I think this is some of the best advice I could get, it is so true in many aspects of life.
  8. Visit  j450n profile page
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    Quote from sharpeimom
    what kind of notebook to buy sounds more like a fourth grader's question rather than a college student's question. that type of question tells your faculty a lot more about the question asker than i think the asker intended. the type of notebook you use is the kind you want to use unless a certain type is specified for some reason -- i.e. handing in a project or your patient notes, careplans etc.

    kathy
    shar pei mom
    i'm sorry, but i disagree. even if the instructor had been asked to clarify a couple of times, it takes but a second. moreover, as a student entering a rn program, i would definitely want to be prepared as best as i can. you're already going to be anxious/nervous as is, so what's wrong with wanting to be prepared as best as you can be?

    i just finished microbiology. yes, i asked my instructor numerous questions on lab procedures. was it because i wasn't paying attention? no. was it because it because the procedure/protocol was a bit unclear? maybe. was it because i prefer to be thorough, prepared, and i want to do something well and not mediocre? yes.

    sometimes, i think people should do some introspection and realize that those 4th grade rudimentary, interpersonal skills are pretty valuable. granted this is about notebooks, and not in a clinical setting...still, on principle, i think it's a good thing the student asked the instructor to recapitulate. there is nothing "4th grade" about asking a question regarding logistics, especially if you're a new student about to enter a profession where a logistical question may save a life.
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  9. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from j450n
    I'm sorry, but I disagree. Even if the instructor had been asked to clarify a couple of times, it takes but a second. Moreover, as a student entering a RN program, I would definitely want to be prepared as best as I can. You're already going to be anxious/nervous as is, so what's wrong with wanting to be prepared as best as you can be?

    I just finished microbiology. Yes, I asked my instructor numerous questions on lab procedures. Was it because I wasn't paying attention? No. Was it because it because the procedure/protocol was a bit unclear? Maybe. Was it because I prefer to be thorough, prepared, and I want to do something well and not mediocre? Yes.

    Sometimes, I think people should do some introspection and realize that those 4th grade rudimentary, interpersonal skills are pretty valuable. Granted this is about notebooks, and not in a clinical setting...still, on principle, I think it's a good thing the student asked the instructor to recapitulate. There is nothing "4th grade" about asking a question regarding logistics, especially if you're a new student about to enter a profession where a logistical question may save a life.
    I agree that I would rather answer 4 dumb questions than have 1 really important question not asked, especially when the consequences of the not asked question are harm or death to another human being. In that case, I'd rather someone think I'm a pain in the butt for getting things re-clarified until I know I understand, than risk a big-time mistake.

    I think what Sharpiemom was alluding to is the person in a lecture hall or classroom setting who wastes everyone else's time asking questions about things that have already been mentioned while they were chit-chatting with friends, are on a list or handout, could be asked of a friend or buddy or are best handled during office hours/before/after class. The way I look at it, in-class time is finite, one student's behavior affects the other's quality of education, and it just shouldn't be squandered on dumb stuff. Good instructors respect everyone's time, and don't let the small issues pull them off track.
  10. Visit  LG1137 profile page
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    Quote from LisaMSN
    Totally OT but I have to ask why "professional airline pilot" is in RN school. I'm a FNP working full time. My husband is a pilot and he makes 3x what I make! Going from being a pilot to a RN makes no financial sense to me at all............
    Because it is not "all about the money."
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    Quote from j450n
    I'm sorry, but I disagree. Even if the instructor had been asked to clarify a couple of times, it takes but a second. Moreover, as a student entering a RN program, I would definitely want to be prepared as best as I can. You're already going to be anxious/nervous as is, so what's wrong with wanting to be prepared as best as you can be?

    I just finished microbiology. Yes, I asked my instructor numerous questions on lab procedures. Was it because I wasn't paying attention? No. Was it because it because the procedure/protocol was a bit unclear? Maybe. Was it because I prefer to be thorough, prepared, and I want to do something well and not mediocre? Yes.

    Sometimes, I think people should do some introspection and realize that those 4th grade rudimentary, interpersonal skills are pretty valuable. Granted this is about notebooks, and not in a clinical setting...still, on principle, I think it's a good thing the student asked the instructor to recapitulate. There is nothing "4th grade" about asking a question regarding logistics, especially if you're a new student about to enter a profession where a logistical question may save a life.

    It takes more then a second to clarify, if we are being honest here, and clarifying once might not be a problem, clarifying more then once on the same thing and having to do so repatidily during class every few minutes adds up and takes a lot of time away from the rest of the course matter. Their are kids in my nursing class that CONSTNATLY ask for clarification on things. Absurd things, for example,

    Teacher says, "you will need to wear your scrubs and entire clinical get up on simulation days. All simulation days are outlines in the syllabus".

    right away (which doesn't bug me as much, in case it was hard to hear. )

    "So we dress just as we would if going to clinical on simulation days and all of those are clearly stated in the syllabus"?

    Instructor= "yes"

    5 mins later, student raises hand, " So in the syllabus it says that their is a simulation day tomorrow, do we wear our scrubs?"

    Instructor= "yes"

    20 mins later, instructor is explaining what will happen during simulation. Student raises hand

    "Do we need to wear our scrubs tomorrow"


    This happened ALL THE TIME, it was very distracting, very annoying, and by the end of class the teacher didn't have time to finish what was planned on the lecture.

    It's absurd and finally by the end of the semester the instructor had enough and told everyone they better right it down because this was going to be the LAST TIME she explained what days we would need to wear our clinical attire outside of clinicals, Students had the nerve to say what a B*^&* she was for saying that.

    This was just ONE example.
  12. Visit  jo'ee profile page
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    Yeah, I agree with you on that point. It is annoying. In one of my classes this went on but the most unreal part was the student who kept asking questions that were answered repeatedly. She would then turn to the class and make faces and arm gestures like the instructor was an idiot while the instructor was answering her question for the billionth time. grrrr You wonder how students like this make it this far.
  13. Visit  Anoetos profile page
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    The same young lady who called our algebra instructor an idiot recently turned to me after asking a question and said, archly, "She asks like I'm not supposed to ask that!".

    The odd thing is that there was nothing in the instructor's demeanor or response which could lead one to conclude that she was annoyed by the question or considered it one to which the student should have known the answer (even if it's true that the student should have).

    Astounding the walls we put up, the difficulties we will place in our own paths, the hills we are willing to die on, the attitudes we will take.

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