Pre-nursing: How to answer NCLEX q's before RN school (or mastering them) - page 4

Hello, all! I am a semester away from applying for nursing school, and I am concerned as to how I am going to be able to answer NCLEX style questions which I'm sure are on exams, yes or no? Does... Read More

  1. by   shibaowner
    Quote from TheAtomicStig_702
    Excuse me? And what are those pre-nursing classes that I had so many complaints and harsh comments about? As of today, I made an A- in A&P 1, A- in Micro, A in required math class for the program, so what other pre-nursing classes did I mention? All I have left is A&P II. This is my first nursing class required for applying in the program. Everything else was non-nursing related and I've done well in all of them. Why would I complain and have so many harsh comments about classes I've done well in?

    I'm going to try out nursing school and if it doesn't work out then oh well, screw it.
    Well, you didn't say if nursing school sucked, but "if it doesn't work out then oh well, screw it." Not a good sign.

    I don't know why you keep going around and around on how to study. Do you have OCD? Or are you trying to avoid focusing on the tasks you have at hand?

    Here is the answer:
    1. You cannot use any outside resources on a TEST unless it is an open book test.

    2. However, if you are studying, you can use whatever resources you wish! Quizlet, youtube, etc. No one cares as long as you get the right info. If you are writing a paper or it is a take home exam, then you must cite your sources properly.
  2. by   TriChick
    Many of us who have "counterconstructive responses" have them not because we have short attention spans, rather because we have actually taken the time to read MANY of the posts and threads you have had. I, for one, paid enough attention to your posts over the last few months that I offered a VERY long and detailed post addressing your anxiety and suggesting you find the underlying issue. The people who I see getting frustrated are the ones who have offered you a lot of advice in the past that you have blown off because we might have asked questions you didn't like or were critical of the way you were speaking about other individuals (instructors, a girl who wasn't interested in a romantic relationship, etc.). I have a feeling, just based on how in-the-weeds you get with things, that you are risking burning out those in real life who want to help you and share their experiences. While I'm sure people are willing to help (contrary to your opinion at times), if you are asking things like what exact text string to Google to find information, I can understand why you feel "blown off". A lot of these things you will likely have to figure out on your own, unfortunately, like most other nursing students have to. We are responsible for our own success and sometimes have to fill in the blanks on our own. I start nursing school next month (a direct-entry MSN program for non-nurses) and I have no false expectations that any of my instructors are going to hold my hand, tailor their teaching methods to accommodate me, or hand me 100% of what I will need to know. In that regard, it ISN'T much different than the military and it might be beneficial to view it similar to training to a certain extent.

    Truth be told, I AM curious why you have such severe anxiety regarding studying, classes, etc. if you have gotten such good grades so far.
  3. by   TriChick
    And obviously, don't use Quizlet for exams. Quizlet cards are often created in a roundabout way from test question banks. If you are needing to use Quizlet to answer an exam question, it's because you don't know the material and you aren't learning it. Not only is it a bad habit to get into, but it's likely considered cheating by your school.
  4. by   pixierose
    [QUOTE=shibaowner;9519455]Quote from you: "I can show maturity in class if I feel conscious about the class I'm in, I like being in it, and I want to learn and feel comfortable and competent. If I don't feel any of those, I get lazy, distracted, hypocritical, and dependent. That's what I meant by "environment". If I feel good and comfortable about the class I'm in, I'm fully independent. My home life plays a large role in environment too. Once I'm physically in nursing both by paper and in classrooms wearing scrubs or whatever, I'll feel more competent and conscious with being able to manage my time and not being distracted while the instructor is teaching."

    If everything has to be perfect in order for you to learn, then you will not make it through nursing school and you certainly won't be able to cut it as a nurse.[/QUOTE

    Agreed.

    And sadly, some of my nursing instructors were just as infuriating. You're going to have good instructors and poor ones. Ones that you're going to want to throw a hissy fit over ... but we don't because we are grown ups.

    Atomic, your posts are exhausting to read. I can't imagine how exhausting it must be to be you ... and you're bringing that down on yourself.

    As for the NCLEX, no worries ... you will be beaten to death with these type of questions in school. You will not escape.
  5. by   Beldar_the_Cenobite
    Quote from shibaowner
    Well, you didn't say if nursing school sucked, but "if it doesn't work out then oh well, screw it." Not a good sign.

    I don't know why you keep going around and around on how to study. Do you have OCD? Or are you trying to avoid focusing on the tasks you have at hand?

    Here is the answer:
    1. You cannot use any outside resources on a TEST unless it is an open book test.

    2. However, if you are studying, you can use whatever resources you wish! Quizlet, youtube, etc. No one cares as long as you get the right info. If you are writing a paper or it is a take home exam, then you must cite your sources properly.
    Yes, this class is ALL take home exam. The exams are ONLINE. NOT IN PERSON. We were given a handout that had advice from previous students who took the class. At the VERY BOTTOM, it states "use quizlet", just wasn't specific on how to use it.

    Quote from TriChick
    And obviously, don't use Quizlet for exams. Quizlet cards are often created in a roundabout way from test question banks. If you are needing to use Quizlet to answer an exam question, it's because you don't know the material and you aren't learning it. Not only is it a bad habit to get into, but it's likely considered cheating by your school.
    Two students who graduated from the program I'm applying for said I could use Quizlet for all take home exams (online exams, examination NOT in person or a testing center, you literally could take the exam at another school if you wanted to). And they both didn't graduate at the same time nor did they know each other. I asked them both. It wasn't until later when they both were graduated and met each other at a BBQ party.
    That is why I said what I said about quizlet. Would they give me poor advice? I don't know, one (the guy, not the girl) of the two was more resourceful than the other about everything else.
    Last edit by Beldar_the_Cenobite on Jul 26
  6. by   Amcdade
    I think you are missing the larger message here- if you aren't able to handle a class not being perfectly set up to suit your learning style, do not waste your time (or take a spot that could be filled by someone who won't say "if it doesn't work out screw it") going to nursing school
  7. by   shibaowner
    Why don't you just ask the instructor? That is always the best way. If it is an online take home exam you can use whatever resources you want, usually. But if you are not sure, go straight to the source and ask the instructor! You keep going around and around on this.
  8. by   TriChick
    If you are nervous about asking the instructor because you are worried you will get in trouble, that should tell you something. It's your call if you want to use online flashcards created by other students to complete an exam, or if you want to use your own knowledge to answer the questions. That's the way you should be looking at it, in my opinion.
    Last edit by TriChick on Jul 26
  9. by   Beldar_the_Cenobite
    Quote from TriChick
    If you are nervous about asking the instructor because you are worried you will get in trouble, that should tell you something. It's your call if you want to use online flashcards created by other students to complete an exam, or if you want to use your own knowledge to answer the questions. That's the way you should be looking at it, in my opinion.
    I'm more worried about asking her for help on material I don't understand. I did once back when the class first started and she kind of had this "just read the material or google what you don't understand" type attitude as if the material was easy and I was in her office with the blue book that I mentioned was difficult to comprehend. It was as if asking for help bothered her. I was really interested in the material and I was asking questions about things I've never heard before like "People born before 1940 experienced the greatest changes in how health is defined, as medicine and health promotion was non-existent. Because infectious diseases claimed the lives of many children and young adults at that time, health was viewed as the absence of disease". I was very confused by the word "absence of disease" because the idea or meaning of it didn't exactly click, so I went to her along with a few other questions and she just had a short fuse. 40+ years in nursing I guess does that to you. She was a research based nurse.
  10. by   TriChick
    Based on your posts, I'm getting the feeling that you have trouble reading people sometimes.
  11. by   xxstarrynitesxx
    Quote from TheAtomicStig_702
    I'm more worried about asking her for help on material I don't understand. I did once back when the class first started and she kind of had this "just read the material or google what you don't understand" type attitude as if the material was easy and I was in her office with the blue book that I mentioned was difficult to comprehend. It was as if asking for help bothered her. I was really interested in the material and I was asking questions about things I've never heard before like "People born before 1940 experienced the greatest changes in how health is defined, as medicine and health promotion was non-existent. Because infectious diseases claimed the lives of many children and young adults at that time, health was viewed as the absence of disease". I was very confused by the word "absence of disease" because the idea or meaning of it didn't exactly click, so I went to her along with a few other questions and she just had a short fuse. 40+ years in nursing I guess does that to you. She was a research based nurse.
    I had took a professor who would give a similar type of response to many students whether it was for her online classes or classes in person. Reading her ratemyprofessors review made her seem like a horrible person. While I can see where she could come off as not helpful to some, I never had an experience like that and she actually invited me to her office to give some advice on a major I was interested in and career possibilities. If I did have a question, I always made sure to present the specific thing I had an issue with and my reasoning/thoughts behind what I was thinking. She did not hand answers out to people who did not try to think about or solve questions on their own, but would point people in the right direction. She was a tough cookie and very no nonsense. A lot of people were used to being spoon fed things from other professors and I found it a tad amusing listening to their rants about "Being dropped from the class for missing an exam" or "Having to drop because the professor was unwilling to work with me about not having done the homework when it was due." These things are clearly in the syllabus mind you.

    You are definitely not alone in your struggles. I take classes as a challenge and am not afraid to do outside research as needed. I treat going to professors as an absolute last resort for help. I've told more than one that because I will go just to say hi, pick up some extra worksheets, or whatever.

    Keep working hard and stay strong! You will get through this class and nursing school. I can't promise that every professor you will get will be what you want, but I always prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I made a promise to myself when I started school to be the best that I can be and I remind myself about that promise as needed.

    P.S. I hate to assume this was even directed at me, but that Finding Nemo comment made my day! Thank you
  12. by   nataliekorn
    Worry about your prereqs first and foremost, because without that there won't even be any nursing school for you. If you're reading the required textbook for the nutrition class and it isn't helping then try looking up YouTube videos or Googling the topic you don't understand or retain. Your situation reminds me of a math class and an anatomy class I had before nursing school although they were in person classes. I felt the teachers style of teaching was horrible, I didn't learn from their lectures, they just read off PowerPoints, I failed the first exams/quizzes and I kept complaining about how horrible those two teachers were. Some classmates complained too, but you gotta deal with what you have. I looked up YouTube videos, I went to tutoring, I looked at other books. YouTube has TONS of videos of people teaching content and if you don't like that certain style then go onto the next video. I love it! I know it is different because you are taking an online class, but you gotta work for it. If you really want this then you will find a way.

    I wouldn't worry about NCLEX questions. Nursing school will teach you about the style and of course the content. You've got enough on your plate for now. Good luck to you.

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