Nursing shortage! Nursing program waiting lists! - page 4

I am working on completion of my pre reqs for the ADN program at my local CC. I am a little concerned over the fact that upon my app. I will be placed into a random selection pool. One-third of the... Read More

  1. by   DragonflyShell
    I am in the nursing program at a CC in Illinois. I know when I applied there were at least 250 applying for only 44 seats and this year there was just as many but this time there is only 33 seats for the first year. I learned the reason for taking so few was the lack of teachers. The CC aren't just able to pay a decent salary to encourage anyone to apply. Why would one want to leave a working nursing position and decrease their pay just to teach students?? The CC once talked about raising the salary but the other instructors threw a fit and demanded that they too get the same type of raise. So it didn't happen.

    If they hire another instructor, maybe not this year but the following year they'll increase the number of incoming students.

    Shell
  2. by   hsnicol
    Hi there, thought that I would ask if anyone has any ideas for me. I am a foreign nurse who trained in Australia, have lived here for three years and am still battling the system. It took me an awful long time to just get the commission of foreign nurses to issue a certificate for my qualifications. Of course after battling them I was told that I needed to do Maternal/infant health and Psych. I live in North Florida and was told that it was easier to apply to the Georgia Board of Nursing which I did and they told me that I could go to school in Florida. So off I went trying to get a spot in one of the local schools only to be told that there are no spots available, which I kind of find hard to believe as I am sure that there are some drop outs each year. Anyway one of the schools even told me that I have to have a letter from the Florida board of Nursing so am currently filling out the paperwork for them. It just seems never ending and so depressing as I do miss working and I am sure that the shortage is real, just on the experience that my step father had recently in hospital (but that is a whole other story) Anyway any ideas or help with figuring out what to do would be so appreciated. Just an aside to this the college that told me that I had to apply thru the Florida Board offered me a job teaching once I was qualified, go figure?????
  3. by   been there
    Quote from melpip3
    I am working on completion of my pre reqs for the ADN program at my local CC. I am a little concerned over the fact that upon my app. I will be placed into a random selection pool. One-third of the class will be alternates from the previous year .Two-thirds will be new apps. I knew what I was walking into, however I just don't understand why. There is a nursing shortage and such high demand for nurses. Why don't we have more programs to educate those who are ready, willing and able. I live in CA. Are other states in the same boat? I'm a mom of three . 33 years old. I work PT and attend classes. Just curious about what others have to say about this issue.
    I was lucky. I got into nursing school the first time I tried. We entered by GPA and there were only 25 slots. However, what about the nursing shortage when there are a lot of us who have only been retired a couple of years and need to go back to work.... rarely have I heard anyone say they were accepted. It is said that it would cost too much to train us!!! Don't hospitals still do a 3 month training for new nurses???????
  4. by   michelleicu
    Quote from Faeriewand
    I'm in San Diego and the wait list here is 2 years for the community colleges. You can get in but you have to wait. SDSU is tough to get into also even tho they have no wait list because they run by points. The higher the grades the more points. Plus way more pre-reqs and you have to do something extra like volunteer in a hospital setting or be a girl scout leader or something for more points to be able to make it in because it is so competitive. Guess its' pretty much the same all across the country.

    FW
    hey there Faeriewand,i'm in SanDiego too,what school do you go to?I live in southbay.
  5. by   Faeriewand
    Quote from michelleicu
    hey there Faeriewand,i'm in SanDiego too,what school do you go to?I live in southbay.
    I'm in East County. ( But not way east) I attend Grossmont College. I would love to get into the program there. I am taking Anat/Physio this summer and A/P II and Micro bio in the fall. Then I will apply there and then continue to take classes to get into state. I will start at state next fall but not sure when I can get into the nursing school.

    Hey did you know Cal State San Marcos is opening up a nursing school this FALL? That is really good! That will take our wait lists down just a bit!

    I wonder if Grossmont Health Occupations Center has a wait list too? Do you know?

    Nice to hear from you! Post again ok?
    FW
  6. by   sailaway
    Turning away qualified nursing candidates is a terrible shame and I am not convinced that this problem is going to be remedied in the short run. Those people most qualified to leave the bedside and take a position as a nurse educator cannot quit their present position to attend a residential graduate program. Many online programs set up unreasonable hurdles like requiring a minimum number of courses per term, requiring residential stayes, etc.

    We have just launched a Master of Nursing Education degree at the University of St. Augustine eliminating all of these hurdles. We have a lot of interest in the program but even we are not going to graduate enough nursing faculty to do anything but put a small dent in the problem.

    It is my personal opinion (and probably not a very popular one) that the NLN and the CCNE continually increase the threshold requirements for nursing faculty at the same time they are crying about the lack of people who are coming into the role--it just does not make sense to me!
  7. by   sfdonna
    1.Here in CA the governor is cutting funds to higher education 2. Attaining a PhD is a long process; most schools require this degree for teaching ; as many nurses have a AS degree, a PhD is a long way off!! 3. Now that we are finally being paid what we deserve, nursing has become attractive 4. Unfortunately nurses are being imported and as long as that occurs there is less incentive by the state to expand nursing education.
  8. by   Jessy_RN
    MOST SCHOOLS ARE ON THE SAME BOAT
  9. by   Lima
    If there is a Nursing Shortage, why is there a waitlist for all the area RN programs? This is a good question, however the best answer might be that Hospital Facilities can only accommodate a limited number of students in training. Safety of the patient is the highest priority. There are over 40 RN programs in Southern California. Also, RN programs are costly, and require most dollars per student than many other professional programs. All RN programs are highly regulated by the Board of Registered Nursing and are carefully evaluated.
    Check out http://www.grossmont.edu/nursing/faq.asp
    Last edit by Lima on May 20, '05
  10. by   LadyKLibra
    Quote from foxfire65
    Was wondering what county you were in? I am in Wayne Co., Michigan. It is similar here, except the cc I am in supposedly admits 240 students per year, but it is on a lottery also and they say you must have A's and B's in pre reqs to get in. Although I have heard they allow some C students in. I am thinking of transferring to another cc or university.

    I'm also in Wayne County. I haven't applied for nursing school as of yet - still completing the pre-req's. Because of the nursing program waiting list situation, I'm also contemplating whether or not to forego nursing altogether. I'm getting older and really don't want to have to wait to much longer. I often say "shoulda coulda" when I was took some pre-req's in the past many years ago, but no sense of thinking of the past. I really want to be a nurse, and never thought that there was a nursing waiting list problem.
  11. by   mstigerlily
    I'm in San Diego too...I went to Palomar College, just graduated in December. When I started the wait was 2 semesters, now their website says 6-8!!! Other colleges are similar, it's insane!!! I was wondering the same - is the nursing shortage a result of small class sizes, not many nursing programs in schools and long waiting lists???

    Melissa

    Quote from Faeriewand
    I'm in San Diego and the wait list here is 2 years for the community colleges. You can get in but you have to wait. SDSU is tough to get into also even tho they have no wait list because they run by points. The higher the grades the more points. Plus way more pre-reqs and you have to do something extra like volunteer in a hospital setting or be a girl scout leader or something for more points to be able to make it in because it is so competitive. Guess its' pretty much the same all across the country.

    FW
  12. by   shawnrj
    I've been lurking here for some time and to be honest, some threads and posts put a scare into me about nursing school and such. However, this has not and will not discourage me from wanting to be a nurse. I just recently retired with 20 years from the Coast Guard (last 14 years as a reservist) and am a Paralegal for a personal injury law firm. I've been doing this since 1994 and I'm sick of it. I'm now 40 years old and 3 years ago I realized that what makes me happy and satisfied is helping people, so I decided I wanted to be a nurse, it's more my personality.

    I've finished all my pre-req. classes and am presently taking my last general ed. class (Algebra) which will be completed June 6. I live in San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles County) and have 4 nursing programs to chose from at 4 different community colleges here in the valley. There are a few more but a bit of a distance away. I will not be able to apply until January of 2006 but that's okay. The only thing that bothers me is "How long will I have to wait until I'm accepted?" Only God and the schools know for sure. The nursing programs here just changed from the so-called 'lottery system' of acceptance to accepting students by their overal GPA, biology GPA, English GPA and a few other requirements. This could be an advantage over the old way. Now they are looking at a person's education and not pulling names from a hat, bypassing good people. By the way, I am a male and I heard that this might be to my advantage because of the demand for male nurses. This is what I've been told, not sure.

    It's been a struggle to go to school and hold down a 50 hour a week job, along with having to drop classes due to being called to active military duty, but I'm almost there. I'd like to keep believing it is all worth it, somehow I do. Everyone keep your heads up and continue to follow your dreams. Just remember, it may take time but what else do you have to lose except a dream of becoming a great nurse.
  13. by   tommysgirl5067
    :angryfire Hi, I have been going through the same thing here in North Carolina. Everyone is always talking about a nursing shortage, and how it is only getting worse. What I can't believe is that there are not a whole lot of nursing programs offered in my area, and the ones that are avaliable are all full. I have completed my pre reqs, and have a 3.9 GPA, and a 25 on the ACT, and was still turned down, because there are just to many students and not enough space. I don't think it should be called a nursing shortage, but a nursing student shortage.

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