Nursing program requires remedial classes?

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I was looking into my CC ADN applicant requirements because I will like to apply to them as a back up program if I don't get into a BSN program. And what I found a little ridiculous was the fact they only required Microbiology, A&P I&II, two communities class, stats, chem, and a humanity and fine arts as prerequisites for their program.

But that it not the problem, the problem is that even if an applicant takes all of the prerequisite classes and excells in all of them they are still required to take the compass test (College Placement Test) and it's MANDATORY. I attend a university and they don't require the compass test so you basically can take any class you want (I took Organic Chem for my first semester as a freshmen andI had no other college credit).

And what the CC's ADN program is saying that once you take the compass test that if you don't get a high enough score in reading, math, or eng you have to take the required remedial class before the start of the program. Which is damn near impossible for one because that is an extra year of school and paying thousands of dollars!

So to sum it up: If a college student took Eng 10&102 and got A's in both they may still need to take the remedial classes for the program if they don't get a good score.

Granted though, I think this is a good and bad thing because this CC has had 100% NCLEX pass rates for five years and my university has been put on academic probation because of the freshman's 2.1 GPA average. But still...it sucks I wanted to apply to it and now I can't.:down:

sailornurse

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I wanted to apply to it and now I can't.:down:

It sounds that you CAN but don't want to follow their application process.

And by your own admission "your" university that does not require a placement test is now on probation due to Freshmen GPA of 2.1. Could it be because freshmen enroll in whatever class they want and then fail?

And by your own observation the CC/ADN has a 100% NCLEX pass rate for past 5 years.

These 2 statements speak volumes. Not sure what is left to discuss or debate. Besides, you are only looking for the CC as a "backup".

mkk99

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If you're concerned that you won't pass a basic competency placement test, I wonder how you will fare in nursing school?

Ambreree

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If you're concerned that you won't pass a basic competency placement test, I wonder how you will fare in nursing school?

I know I can pass the reading and English because I tested really high on the ACT but I know I'm not good at math at all and I never have been. The only way for me to pass math is if it taught to me, not me teaching myself. But as the PP has said, it is only a backup school so yeah their is no need to fret I guess.

Ambreree

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It sounds that you CAN but don't want to follow their application process.

And by your own admission "your" university that does not require a placement test is now on probation due to Freshmen GPA of 2.1. Could it be because freshmen enroll in whatever class they want and then fail?

And by your own observation the CC/ADN has a 100% NCLEX pass rate for past 5 years.

These 2 statements speak volumes. Not sure what is left to discuss or debate. Besides, you are only looking for the CC as a "backup".

Though in fairness, this is my university's second year of having freshmans. In 2013 and the previous years before that they only enrolled juniors and seniors.

BeachsideRN, ASN

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Typically transfer students with a certain number of college credits from an accredited university do not need to take a placement test. Make sure you are reading and understanding the CC policy correctly before blasting it

BeachsideRN, ASN

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Though in fairness, this is my university's second year of having freshmans. In 2013 and the previous years before that they only enrolled juniors and seniors.

What kind of university only accepts juniors and seniors? This doesn't make any sense at all

Ambreree

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What kind of university only accepts juniors and seniors? This doesn't make any sense at all

It was a graduate school?? This university is known for it's physical therapy and occupation therapy programs. And they did a 2+2 degree with the CC so a lot upper level undergrads transfered there. It makes perfect sense.

Ambreree

26 Posts

Typically transfer students with a certain number of college credits from an accredited university do not need to take a placement test. Make sure you are reading and understanding the CC policy correctly before blasting it

I'm sure I read the policy correctly: "All program applicants are required to to take the College's placement test. If the results of this examination indicate a need for developmental courses, these must be completed with "C" grades prior to February 1"

To complete the application process, a transcript, nursing attempt form,application, and the Compass Test needs to be turned in by the due date.

BeachsideRN, ASN

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Specializes in NICU, Trauma, Oncology.
I'm sure I read the policy correctly: "All program applicants are required to to take the College's placement test. If the results of this examination indicate a need for developmental courses, these must be completed with "C" grades prior to February 1"

To complete the application process, a transcript, nursing attempt form,application, and the Compass Test needs to be turned in by the due date.

Seems fair. Take the test and pass it. They want to make sure you can pass basic math, reading and English. You will be required to take a dosage calculation test every semester during nursing school.

BeachsideRN, ASN

1,722 Posts

Specializes in NICU, Trauma, Oncology.
I know I can pass the reading and English because I tested really high on the ACT but I know I'm not good at math at all and I never have been. The only way for me to pass math is if it taught to me, not me teaching myself. But as the PP has said, it is only a backup school so yeah their is no need to fret I guess.

Also, you will have to teach yourself a lot of things in nursing school. There simply aren't enough hours for the instructors to teach you everything - including dosage calculations.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatrics, Wound Care.

Also, every class that I took (except "ethics" courses) in my nursing program required "Med Math". Generally basic math, word problems. But you need a 90% or higher, and 2 chances to pass, or else you fail that course. Some places even require 100% pass rates on the quiz. Most/all of it was dosing questions like "Your patient is to recieve xyz mcg of a medicine, the syringes contain abc mcg/ml, how many mls is the proper dose".

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