To much time wasted on classes that have nothing to do with Nursing!!! - page 2

by Mschwab316 | 5,067 Views | 39 Comments

My personal opinion on taking classes that really do not have anything to do with nursing suck. If they focased on the nursing and passing boards maybe the pass rate for yhe nclex would be better. Are you going to be a... Read More


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    Quote from marycarney
    There are not enough classes to be a 'math major' in your prereqs - but there are enough to enable you to decide how many milliliters of Lasix to give a child in heart failure when the solution comes 10 milligrams per milliliter and you need to give a total dose of 1 milligram per kilogram of body weight to a 4.6 kilogram infant.

    There are not enough English classes to make you an English major- but there are enough to allow you to document a narrative account of the changes your patient is going through while decompensating after a surgical procedure or medical emergency, with enough precise language to allow the professionals following you to follow the chain of events and assess the effectiveness of the interventions that were used.

    Chemistry? It is REALLY helpful to understand how glucose is metabolized in the human body, and how that metabolism is impaired in the patient lacking the hormone insulin - as well as how those chemical derangements affect other body systems.

    A waste of time? If you STILL think they are a waste of time, you have come to the wrong profession.
    Thank you for your jab at my bad day, BTW I'm a former military medic, and have put alot of hours and hard work into my health career. Hospital, battlefield, the street. I have worked over 300 codes, intubated , well need I say more. Maybe I don't have your class time right now but you will never be a pimple on my a** when it comes to my acomplishments and I'm not done. Have a nice day!!!!
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    Yeah, I felt the same way before entering nursing school. One of my biggest arguments (and retaliation toward the program directors) was why did I need chemistry, and why do I need to know about the mole of a substance? Why do I need to break down different compounds of the most complicated and random elements? What in the world does this have to do with caring for a patient?!?! I would go on tirades to my family members about it. I HATED my advanced English/Literature courses because again, why the heck do I need to know that stuff?

    However, I have found that Chemistry has in fact really put things into perspective when learning about different drugs. Had I known that at the time, I probably would have taken my Chemistry course a little more seriously. The English courses have given me the ability to write and read material in a more advanced manner which came in handy when reading my nursing books and taking the exams.

    It still is questionable about some of the BSN courses and how they have any relevance to nursing and patient care. I have to jump back from that old way of thinking, and realize that some of these courses just might shed some light and help me as a future nurse and future nursing professor one day.

    It is my hope for the OP, and all other pre-nursing students that you will store away, and remember the information that is thrown at you in some of these brutal and dry classes for the future. It would be a tragedy to open a nursing book and not remember some the information that you had learned during your pre-requisite courses. Trust me, it isn't fun having to go back and re-study all over the most basic physiological processes of the human body; or having to go back and re-learn how to write a basic APA formatted paper. Good luck!
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    Quote from Mschwab316
    .....I'm a former military medic, and have put alot of hours and hard work into my health career. Hospital, battlefield, the street. I have worked over 300 codes, intubated , well need I say more.
    Well, yes you do, actually. The work you did as a medic is not the same as the work you will, one day, be doing as a nurse. Your opening post was storming about how non-nursing classes "suck" and you wondered what they have to do with being a nurse. Achieving a college degree in nursing is of course achieving a college degree first, which is why all those classes are there. If you preferred not to have that degree, there are practical nursing courses available at trade schools that award certificates, not degrees...but the opportunities for employment aren't the same. As for the classes themselves, I assure you they will come in handy if you do become a working RN.


    Maybe I don't have your class time right now but you will never be a pimple on my a** when it comes to my acomplishments and I'm not done....
    Seriously? You know this....how? Maybe it's a bad day you're having, but you need to remember that going after someone like you just did here is in bad form, regardless of your mood at the moment. Keeping your cool and behaving as a professional is an invaluable tool of a good nurse. The hospital is not a battlefield
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    The one thing that always fascinated me about nursing is that I can use everything I've ever learned about science, culture, and just about every other branch of knowledge and philosophy in my practice, sooner or later. Especially in psych nursing, it's important to be able to reach a patient, and the more exposure to different ideas you have, the better you are able to do that. On a personal level, ii also think that a broader exposure to different ideas tends to make one more tolerant and accepting of other cultures and ideas.
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    I think most nurses would do better if they had a seperate pharmacology class and a medical terminology class. Not all this history and english after all we went to high school and graduated so we know how to read and write.
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    Quote from katrinad
    I think most nurses would do better if they had a seperate pharmacology class and a medical terminology class. Not all this history and english after all we went to high school and graduated so we know how to read and write.
    I know of some professors that would disagree that college student know how to write. High school teaches you to write at a high school level. Not college.
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    Some high schools will teach you to write better than some college classes, but on the flip side some of the writing I've read from other college students has been just surprising at how bad it was. I can see the relevance in the english classes. I haven't started a nursing program, and I hope that the chemistry I've taken will be relevant too. I've been kind of surprised at how many nursing programs do not require biochemistry. I can't imagine how that class would not be helpful!

    Quote from runsalot
    I know of some professors that would disagree that college student know how to write. High school teaches you to write at a high school level. Not college.
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    Theater 101 was a waste, not sure why I needed a "fine art".
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    I loved history but it didn't tell me anything i will find useful in nursing so far. I do agree that writing, and computers , especially the maths and sciences.are beneficial. I think for the level of math we are doing in nursing some schools require too far advanced math for nursing. I've seen different maths with different schools.
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    Quote from RNsRWe
    Well, yes you do, actually. The work you did as a medic is not the same as the work you will, one day, be doing as a nurse. Your opening post was storming about how non-nursing classes "suck" and you wondered what they have to do with being a nurse. Achieving a college degree in nursing is of course achieving a college degree first, which is why all those classes are there. If you preferred not to have that degree, there are practical nursing courses available at trade schools that award certificates, not degrees...but the opportunities for employment aren't the same. As for the classes themselves, I assure you they will come in handy if you do become a working RN.
    EXACTLY! And anyone who is going back for a second degree in nursing (either via an associate's program, bachelor's, or - in my case - accelerated bachelor's) will tell you that those extra classes are BECAUSE you're earning a college degree. It's to fulfill your liberal arts requirements... whether you're majoring in history, english, biology, engineering, or nursing. Look up the degree requirements for any 2 or 4-year college, and you'll find this to be true across the board. Those general education classes are there to give students a well-rounded education.

    I have a bachelor's degree in biology, and my husband has one in engineering; we both had to take those so-called "useless" classes.

    ETA: For students going back for a second degree, the general education/liberal arts classes are usually waived because those requirements were met with the first degree. In this case, students jump right into their nursing coures.
    Last edit by SaleishaRN on Mar 30, '13 : Reason: add'l info
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