Disrespectful to instructor.... - page 3

OK, It's been a while since I've taken a college course (I graduated over 10 yrs ago...)... but is it just me.... or are students much ruder to professors these days??? :uhoh21: I CANNOT believe... Read More

  1. by   luvmy3kids
    OK you guys.... I never said she was young... She's probably about 45 or so. (just extremely immature) I did hear her mention that she is taking a biology course as a requirement from her employer (don't ask... she's a business major I guess)... why she chose Anatomy I'll never understand.....

    Another example... last night our instructor was telling us that we have to sign up for our Lab Practical coming up here soon. We have a 1 hour time slot (our class is Tues night) and we can sign up at 5, 6, or 7pm. Then lecture WILL be held at 8pm. Everyone moaned and groaned... and she said that was a total disregard for our personal schedules and she was going to "write a letter to the Dean of Students"...

    I realize she was probably being sarcastic (but who knows really??)... but it's crap like that that I find very distracting. For cripes sake... we would have to be there until 9pm anyway (whether we had the practical or not)... so whats the big deal? I actually enjoy being in class (it gets me out of the house and requires my husband or a babysitter to get the kids down for bed!!!)

    And one student asked if we had to spell out the word for TMJ. He said... if it is in the Lab Manual and is in bold type, we should know how to spell it... And that's when Student A she said she hated him. I'm like... it's a ******* spelling word... that is about the easiest part of Anatomy... it's the rest that is difficult!!

    So anyway... I just wanted to clarify that she is actually an older student and SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE A NURSING STUDENT!!!!

    BTW ... on the first day of class he passed out a syllabus that did state in the rules and guidelines that we all have the right to a classroom free from distractions... ie. cells, talking, pencil tapping... etc... So I guess I could mention it but it's just not like me to complain.... (well to you guys I can... LOL right???)
    I'm glad to know I'm not such a party pooper after all!
  2. by   SummerGarden
    Quote from luvmy3kids
    OK you guys.... I never said she was young... She's probably about 45 or so. (just extremely immature) I did hear her mention that she is taking a biology course as a requirement from her employer (don't ask... she's a business major I guess)... why she chose Anatomy I'll never understand.....
    And one student asked if we had to spell out the word for TMJ. He said... if it is in the Lab Manual and is in bold type, we should know how to spell it... And that's when Student A she said she hated him. I'm like... it's a ******* spelling word... that is about the easiest part of Anatomy... it's the rest that is difficult!!

    So anyway... I just wanted to clarify that she is actually an older student and SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE A NURSING STUDENT!!!!

    BTW ... on the first day of class he passed out a syllabus that did state in the rules and guidelines that we all have the right to a classroom free from distractions... ie. cells, talking, pencil tapping... etc... So I guess I could mention it but it's just not like me to complain.... (well to you guys I can... LOL right???)
    I'm glad to know I'm not such a party pooper after all!
    I understand she is a distraction, but she is not worth your time. She sounds like she is feeling very threatened by the fact that she is taking a course that is not only of no interest to her, she is not perfect at learning the information.

    I have met the type before. I have a business degree and by the grace of God I am also talented in other areas including science (always have been). However, that cannot be said for everyone.

    Not everyone is really good in one area academically and is also good in another. She may be very good in business and business/finance related material and very disinterested and terrible at learning science related material. Therefore, she may feel extremely threatened by the fact that her current employers are requiring her to take a course in something she is not good at learning. So she lashes out at the Professor.

    You are very lucky she is not a pre-nursing student or you may have to see her again in a student nurse capacity. I know a few annoying classmates with really nasty attitudes that I will not be fortunate enough not to see again since they are trying to get into the same program. Good luck.
    Last edit by SummerGarden on Sep 21, '06
  3. by   CseMgr1
    Quote from stevielynn
    I think times have changed . . . and it is sad.

    People are more disrespectful. You see it in grocery stores, department stores, hospitals and classrooms.

    So, I agree with you and have personally seen teachers treated very rudely.

    steph
    If parents and teachers were allowed to get back to the basics of child-rearing and teaching without fear of being reported to DEFACS or being sued by the same parents who fear retribution by their own kids, we wouldn't be having this problem today.

    Back during the 80's when my son was growing up, he knew better than to act up in school. He not only knew that his teachers had my written blessings to kick his butt prn, but also that he would get it kicked again, when he got home!

    No discipline = no respect for others.
  4. by   LMRN10
    Quote from joyflnoyz
    I'm a LVN, just beginning to go back to school (the plan for 25 years, but "real life" interferes) I'm starting with elementary algebra, to get my feet wet.
    I chose this instructor mostly because of what was on her web site.
    Cell phone rings? 50 points off for each ring until it has been turned off (heehee I leave mine in my car when i go to class cuz the button to change the ring to silent is on the side, and OFTEN gets pushed while the phone is in my purse) Don't have all your homework done? Forbidden to take the test (and she only requires every other one of homework problems assigned) Homework not handed in on the due date? Lose 30% if handed in on the next class date. Still don't turn it in? no credit, and you STILL have to hand it in to take the exams. 4 absences and she drops you. 4 tardies count as 1 absence. We've lost some kids cuz they don't want to do things her way (remember, this is a developemental math class) She wants us to UNDERSTAND what we're doing, do all the steps on paper. One kid kept wanting me to share my book, paper, markers, wanting me to explain thigns to him and copy my answers. he'd say "I know the answer is this, why do I have to do the work?" etc. Heck I DON'T DO MY OWN KIDS' WORK FOR THEM, why would I do HIS??

    I've ALWAYS had trouble with algebra; I actually don't fee stupid in this class. This instructor has a system in place to get us to LEARN, and I have a great deal of respect for her for sticking to it!
    Absolutely Awesome!! My Algebra teacher about 2 years ago was like this also. But she was very nice...as long as you were respectful of her. And I'll tell ya...I learned so much more (as I was never good in math) than I ever had before from her!!
  5. by   LMRN10
    Quote from CseMgr1
    If parents and teachers were allowed to get back to the basics of child-rearing and teaching without fear of being reported to DEFACS or being sued by the same parents who fear retribution by their own kids, we wouldn't be having this problem today.

    Back during the 80's when my son was growing up, he knew better than to act up in school. He not only knew that his teachers had my written blessings to kick his butt prn, but also that he would get it kicked again, when he got home!

    No discipline = no respect for others.
    Very true...I grew up in the 80's and yes...I was a good kid BECAUSE I knew if I wasn't, I'd get in more trouble at home than anything!! I'm going to do my best to raise my daughter to be respectful like I was (and still am :innerconf )
  6. by   LMRN10
    Quote from luvmy3kids
    OK you guys.... I never said she was young... She's probably about 45 or so. (just extremely immature) I did hear her mention that she is taking a biology course as a requirement from her employer (don't ask... she's a business major I guess)... why she chose Anatomy I'll never understand.....

    Another example... last night our instructor was telling us that we have to sign up for our Lab Practical coming up here soon. We have a 1 hour time slot (our class is Tues night) and we can sign up at 5, 6, or 7pm. Then lecture WILL be held at 8pm. Everyone moaned and groaned... and she said that was a total disregard for our personal schedules and she was going to "write a letter to the Dean of Students"...

    I realize she was probably being sarcastic (but who knows really??)... but it's crap like that that I find very distracting. For cripes sake... we would have to be there until 9pm anyway (whether we had the practical or not)... so whats the big deal? I actually enjoy being in class (it gets me out of the house and requires my husband or a babysitter to get the kids down for bed!!!)

    And one student asked if we had to spell out the word for TMJ. He said... if it is in the Lab Manual and is in bold type, we should know how to spell it... And that's when Student A she said she hated him. I'm like... it's a ******* spelling word... that is about the easiest part of Anatomy... it's the rest that is difficult!!

    So anyway... I just wanted to clarify that she is actually an older student and SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE A NURSING STUDENT!!!!

    BTW ... on the first day of class he passed out a syllabus that did state in the rules and guidelines that we all have the right to a classroom free from distractions... ie. cells, talking, pencil tapping... etc... So I guess I could mention it but it's just not like me to complain.... (well to you guys I can... LOL right???)
    I'm glad to know I'm not such a party pooper after all!
    I agree...I'm glad she's not a Nuring student!!

    I have had people...a variety of ages...pull the same thing. Unfortunatly I usually just say things under my breath. Maybe one of the times they'll hear me. I'm not one to complain either.

    But I can't help but get upset when they treat the instructor disrespectfully and wish the instructor would stick up for him/herself! Oh well...
  7. by   stickadoraRN
    it is actually not a new story nowadays.i have to admit that i once became just the same.some people just don't over-grow, i might say, their "mean spoiled" side.a very good example:a kid who didn't get the candy he was asking from his mom in a candyshop.the only reason why we sometimes hate our professors is bcoz he/she didn't comply with what we want and learning something is a new challenge for us..sometimes we don't want that challenge because we are so stressed out or simply bcoz we're too lazy to learn new things and that gives pressure.who wants to get pressured?every human being have tried to avoid it but that is life and we learn from it.that's why instead of thanking them, we hate them..but i believe, based on my own experience, that when we finally graduate or loose grip from those clinical instructors, we soon realize that we are so blessed to have them..we should admire their patience and willingness to share their knowledge.it is actually our problem, not theirs..just a fact that we are still dumbs!so a lil advice, go back to them when it's finally over to be working and studying with them and a simple thank you and sorry will be forever treasured by these professional angels. remember, if not with them, we won't be standing where we are in life right now. :angel2:
  8. by   sjt9721
    Quote from CseMgr1
    Back during the 80's when my son was growing up, he knew better than to act up in school. He not only knew that his teachers had my written blessings to kick his butt prn, but also that he would get it kicked again, when he got home!
    Mom??? Is that you???



    :roll Just kidding!
  9. by   LMRN10
    Quote from stickadoraRN
    it is actually not a new story nowadays.i have to admit that i once became just the same.some people just don't over-grow, i might say, their "mean spoiled" side.a very good example:a kid who didn't get the candy he was asking from his mom in a candyshop.the only reason why we sometimes hate our professors is bcoz he/she didn't comply with what we want and learning something is a new challenge for us..sometimes we don't want that challenge because we are so stressed out or simply bcoz we're too lazy to learn new things and that gives pressure.who wants to get pressured?every human being have tried to avoid it but that is life and we learn from it.that's why instead of thanking them, we hate them..but i believe, based on my own experience, that when we finally graduate or loose grip from those clinical instructors, we soon realize that we are so blessed to have them..we should admire their patience and willingness to share their knowledge.it is actually our problem, not theirs..just a fact that we are still dumbs!so a lil advice, go back to them when it's finally over to be working and studying with them and a simple thank you and sorry will be forever treasured by these professional angels. remember, if not with them, we won't be standing where we are in life right now. :angel2:
    I agree...we need to thank them when all is said and done, but those who are rude and stressed out because they don't want to learn new things, what are they going to school for? Don't you go to college to learn something new? I just think if it's too stressful, then they need to lighten the load. I work full time, have a daughter and go to school part time. I have yet to be rude to an instructor. I don't know...if you don't want to learn new things and if that is what stresses a person out so much, then quit!! The whole point of going to school is to be taught the profession of your choice...can't do that without some hard work!!
  10. by   Daytonite
    You can't get involved with this stuff. And, don't reveal any of this to the instructor. It brings you down to their immature level. And, that's what it is, immaturity. Also, people who make quick decisions about someone like that are not thinking right. In nursing, we make decisions based on sound data that we collect--the data collecting process is ongoing. We also keep an open mind and strive to be non-judgmental. That was the lecture I got the first day of nursing class. Feel sorry for these people, especially if they are healthcare wannabees. Negative attitudes, closed minds and non-judgmental attitudes do not mesh well with nursing and many of these people will not make it through a nursing program, if that is their goal. Tolerance. That is your assignment. It is another characteristic that nurses need to possess. Just ignore these people. Their losses will be your gains. Their lost opportunities will be yours.
  11. by   Multicollinearity
    What a timely thread. I lost my temper (sort of) in my chem lab class last week. I am feeling like an indignant 'new' elder. It seems so recent that I was the younger generation, and now I'm feeling like a little old lady yearning for yester-year. I hope that makes sense.

    Anyway - last week in chem lab some young men at the table next to me were going on about some young woman that they apparently don't think highly of. Four letter words dominated the conversation. Now this is a relatively small lab room. Meaning everyone can hear everyone else unless you are whispering. These students can be as vulgar as they wish on campus - just not during class or lab. That is my time. I find this vulgar language to be so disrespectful to the instructor too. I cannot fathom using four letter words with the instructor happening to be 10 feet away.

    Anyway, last week in lab I heard the word that broke the floodgates of my wrath - something that rhymes with 'runt.' I slammed by lab book down, turned around and locked my eyes on the young man speaking a few feet away. I was seething with anger. I locked my eyes on him. Slowly everyone stopped within a few feet stopped talking. I was glaring at him. He turned bright red. After a few loaded seconds, we all went back to our work, quietly.

    I don't understand these young people. This culture of using ugly language in every sentence, and around instructors to boot. It is so disrespectful. I've never seen an instructor tell a student to stop such language. On the flip side - I do have an instructor who uses four letter words in every lecture herself. I don't think these students are receiving proper feedback from those around them that this isn't acceptable. So they persist.

    These students seem to pepper nearly every sentence with words like "****" and "that's so gay" and the four letter words we all know. I just don't understand it. I truly don't. When I was a young person (not so many years ago) we would sometimes hear or say four letter words, but it wasn't with every sentence, and it wasn't in ways so routinely vulgar towards women. I don't recall so much mainstream misogyny. What has happened?
  12. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    I don't understand these young people.
    I don't understand why people think it's the young people. It's people in general, regardless of age that have gotten worse over time.
  13. by   Multicollinearity
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    I don't understand why people think it's the young people. It's people in general, regardless of age that have gotten worse over time.
    Hi there Marie. I didn't say "the young people" referring to them all. I referred to "these young people" meaning these young people who are using such language at my school. I talk with young people daily who do not use such language.

    I just know that when I was late teens and early twenties - I didn't hear vulgar language within my age group to the degree I hear it now with that age group. I'm not blaming them. They clearly haven't been taught and socialized that this is unacceptable.

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