Direct Entry Programs- How hard to get in? - page 38

Thanks for all of your responses to all of my previous posts. As you probably assume, I'm evaluating all of my options including ADN, BSN, and Direct-Entry MSN. The direct entry programs look... Read More

  1. by   Gennaver
    Quote from future nurse jess
    And I just got an acceptance letter from Boston College!!!!!



    I'm in shock. I can't believe that now I get to choose between my three schools!!!!!

    -Jess
    This is really great news Jess! I imagine that right now you may not feel the ground underneath your feet.

    Truly good news.

    All that pre-letter anxst will have to hit the road!!

    Gen
    p.s. wait, no, that anxst is coming to Chicago!!
  2. by   Gennaver
    Quote from future nurse jess

    The sad situation I'm in is that childcare for two kids for three years actually costs more than tuition. It's insane. If I think too much about it it just feels like it's impossible - but we'll figure it out somehow. :chuckle

    -Jess
    Hold on,
    This is actually better than it looks at first. In my last year's class, (sociology of the marriage and families) we had to do many papers. One of my papers was to research the cost of child care from infancy until high school. I used my sister with her three daughters as an example.

    The cost looked ridiculous! $36,000.00 for a full year and her job only left her with a couple of a thousand on top of that, it looked unworth it UNTIL....continueing calculations with mom working and children growing and the benefit IS that while your children are socializing, and learning and you are working and earning experience you are raising your EARNING POTENTIAL while their childcare costs are DECREASING.

    This is a WIN-WIN type of situation Jess. Also, a doctor and a nurse that I worked with were talking one day about guilt over child care and a couple of doctors, (all moms) came over and joined in on how the benefits to your children with you working and realizing yourself is truly worth it, happy mom = better mom.

    Another woman I know, (with her Ph.D. in developemental childcare) once said she thought she was a terrible mother, until one of her professors told her to look at her children...they were HAPPY, that is what mattered most.

    You can do this Jess!!

    Gen
  3. by   Gennaver
    Quote from ChrisA
    Wow! You guys are just firing on all cylinders! Congrats to all of you!

    I just talked to the husband of our new Bishop, and I'm going to be applying for a year-long Certificate in Theological Studies at an Episcopalian Seminary in Berkeley, CA. Heck, I need to do something until I can apply again to nursing school.
    Good for you, (and all who will be your future patients too!)

    One of my recommenders is a theologian, she is a professor of religious studies at my university.

    A former co-worker from a hospital, ( a clergy member and theologian) is a co-student with me this semester in my Health Psychology course!

    Congrats to you too!
    Gen
  4. by   PdxDreamer
    It's hard to wait here in Portland from MGH! I checked the mail today.. nothing! I'm hoping it will be sooner than later!!
  5. by   Jess RN
    Quote from PdxDreamer
    It's hard to wait here in Portland from MGH! I checked the mail today.. nothing! I'm hoping it will be sooner than later!!
    Oh Diana it's so hard to wait!!! Hopefully tomorrow will be the day! Fingers crossed for you! Let us know when you know!

    -Jess
  6. by   Jess RN
    Quote from Gennaver
    Hold on,
    This is actually better than it looks at first. In my last year's class, (sociology of the marriage and families) we had to do many papers. One of my papers was to research the cost of child care from infancy until high school. I used my sister with her three daughters as an example.

    The cost looked ridiculous! $36,000.00 for a full year and her job only left her with a couple of a thousand on top of that, it looked unworth it UNTIL....continueing calculations with mom working and children growing and the benefit IS that while your children are socializing, and learning and you are working and earning experience you are raising your EARNING POTENTIAL while their childcare costs are DECREASING.

    This is a WIN-WIN type of situation Jess. Also, a doctor and a nurse that I worked with were talking one day about guilt over child care and a couple of doctors, (all moms) came over and joined in on how the benefits to your children with you working and realizing yourself is truly worth it, happy mom = better mom.

    Another woman I know, (with her Ph.D. in developemental childcare) once said she thought she was a terrible mother, until one of her professors told her to look at her children...they were HAPPY, that is what mattered most.

    You can do this Jess!!

    Gen
    Gen- Thanks so much for this post. I struggle so much with this "mommy guilt". I just got of the phone with my mom (who stayed at home with me and my bros but was miserable) and she was like "well it's obvious to me you need to choose the least demanding, most flexible school and put your kids first- this is about not disrupting their lives any more than you need to" I know I should just let it roll off my back but she really made me feel selfish for even considering going back to school at all. I do believe a happy mom is a better mom- but only to a point, you know? At some point there has to be a balance. Is it ok to use child care 20 hrs a week, 40, 60? At what point are you "outsourcing" your kids' upbringing? I know this is a little OT for this thread- I apologize. :uhoh21:

    -Jess
  7. by   smile123
    Quote from future nurse jess
    At some point there has to be a balance. Is it ok to use child care 20 hrs a week, 40, 60? At what point are you "outsourcing" your kids' upbringing? I know this is a little OT for this thread- I apologize. :uhoh21:

    -Jess
    Do not feel guilty in the least. You need to look at the big picture. Go to a school that will give you the best training and opportunity to open doors for YOU. You are changing careers and investing time in yourself. You deserve it!

    If your kids are in child care 20 hrs or 40 hrs/week, that's OK. They know you are their mom who loves them. They also know you are only doing the school thing for a short while. I don't remember how old your kids are, but you could say, "now mommy and her kids are doing homework" and going to school. They can certainly relate to that.

    As long as you show them you love them and your support network (dad, friends, etc.) help out, that should be no problem. You can do it!

    Smile123
  8. by   Gennaver
    Quote from future nurse jess
    Gen- Thanks so much for this post. I struggle so much with this "mommy guilt". I just got of the phone with my mom (who stayed at home with me and my bros but was miserable) and she was like "well it's obvious to me you need to choose the least demanding, most flexible school and put your kids first- this is about not disrupting their lives any more than you need to" I know I should just let it roll off my back but she really made me feel selfish for even considering going back to school at all. I do believe a happy mom is a better mom- but only to a point, you know? At some point there has to be a balance. Is it ok to use child care 20 hrs a week, 40, 60? At what point are you "outsourcing" your kids' upbringing? I know this is a little OT for this thread- I apologize. :uhoh21:

    -Jess
    Another wonderful professor of mine, (for the marriages and family class) once talked about how her kids all knew that mommy needed to do her homework. While she worked for years on her Ph.D. and everything that goes with it.

    She said that when it was all said and done her youngest daughter was so 'unimpressed' that mommy was not 'that' type of doctor!!

    I believe your feelings and concern are natural because you deeply love your children and want to do what is best for them.

    At the center where those doctors were that I worked with, one of the docs had five children, another four, another two, another a few and one of the lab techs had five, an office clerk had five and all of those workers agreed wholeheartedly that your heart is with your children and that you will indeed have to make trade-offs, (mostly with sleep and with you taking the short end, by choice). Another nurse told me that when her little ones were young and she was still in her BSN program that she laminated her note cards to take them to the bathtub with her.



    You are right to let the comment with your mother slide, (I think so).
    Gen
    p.s. this is not too far off topic in the least!
  9. by   elizabells
    Jess, darling, I don't have kids, so I can't really know what you're facing, but I do know that I was in daycare when I was little and I'm going to Columbia and am only mildly insane, so don't let your mom make you feel guilty! Just love them! I grew up in a town where my mom was one of a very, very few who worked outside of the home, and we caught a lot of heat (i.e., got kicked out of Brownie Scouts because she wasn't as available as the other moms!), but we just stuck together and I always knew she loved me. There were plenty of other kids whose moms stayed home that ended up a lot more screwy than I did. Feminism is about the freedom to make your OWN choices about what's best for you and your family. And I'm not saying this is your situation, but what if you gave up the program you really wanted because of childcare issues and then you were sad about it? Kids pick up on that stuff. Not in any way saying you'd resent your kids or take it out on them, but the little ones are mighty perceptive and apt to figure out a way blame themselves for things in their parents' lives. Just go with your heart. It's at most three years. I promise it'll be okay, no matter what you decide.

    steps down off soapbox
  10. by   Mission
    Jess, I also don't have kids, but I think you're doing the right thing. My mom took a job at a local community health center when I was young because my parents were struggling and her not working was not really an option any longer. Her taking that job is the whole reason I became interested in health care and am going into nursing now. When I was in high school I was able to intern with her in the summer. My experience there has opened so many doors and opportunities for me that I can only imagine that my life would be completely different if she hadn't taken that job. You never know, your kids my follow in your footsteps someday.
  11. by   Jess RN
    Quote from Mission
    Jess, I also don't have kids, but I think you're doing the right thing. My mom took a job at a local community health center when I was young because my parents were struggling and her not working was not really an option any longer. Her taking that job is the whole reason I became interested in health care and am going into nursing now. When I was in high school I was able to intern with her in the summer. My experience there has opened so many doors and opportunities for me that I can only imagine that my life would be completely different if she hadn't taken that job. You never know, your kids my follow in your footsteps someday.
    Ok, you guys are awesome!!! Thanks you so much for telling me I'm not abusing my kids by sending them to daycare. I have worked so hard for this and really want to see it all fall into place. I know it will be hard on all of use for a time- but you are all right- the payoff will be huge. And I think I will be a good role model for my girls. My mom has issues- I need to not let her comments replay over and over again in my mind! Once I find the right childcare setup I think I will feel so much better about it all! Thanks everyone, for your support!

    Jess
  12. by   CEG
    I'm still anxiously awaiting my acceptance, but enjoying this thread.

    I think working makes me a better mommy. I can go out, do the adult thing all day, then I am excited to see my daughter when I pick her up. I have plenty of patience and I have been looking forward to playing with her.

    If I stayed home all day I think I would be a grouch with no patience. I also think I would sit around in my pajamas all day

    Anyone who can get into three programs sounds like the kind of person who needs the stimulation and adult interaction outside the home, but will have lots left over for the kids after school. Also, kids can pick up on your emotional state- a mommy who is fulfilling her dream by going to school sounds a lot better than a mommy who gave up her dream to take care of the kids.

    Just my .02.
  13. by   Jess RN
    Quote from CEG
    I'm still anxiously awaiting my acceptance, but enjoying this thread.

    I think working makes me a better mommy. I can go out, do the adult thing all day, then I am excited to see my daughter when I pick her up. I have plenty of patience and I have been looking forward to playing with her.

    If I stayed home all day I think I would be a grouch with no patience. I also think I would sit around in my pajamas all day

    Anyone who can get into three programs sounds like the kind of person who needs the stimulation and adult interaction outside the home, but will have lots left over for the kids after school. Also, kids can pick up on your emotional state- a mommy who is fulfilling her dream by going to school sounds a lot better than a mommy who gave up her dream to take care of the kids.

    Just my .02.
    CEG- Thanks so much for this reassurance and encouragement! I do try to make it into real clothes each day- but man, some days it is hard!! :chuckle Staying at home with young kids is hard work. Much harder than any of my previous jobs and in ways I'm not particularly skilled at. I love my kids- but right now I'm giving them quantity time not quality time. I do think I will be a happier mom when I'm using my brain and working toward a worthy goal. I just have to have faith that my kids will be ok and that I will find the right childcare provider. Also, this will mean my husband will really have to step up in terms of responsibility as well and I think that will be a good thing.

    Thanks everyone for your support! This is an awesome thread/site!

    Jess

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