Chemistry not required for nursing program? - page 4

by RN2BE93

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Hi guys! I applied to a school and found out that chemistry is not a pre req for their nursing program and you don't have to take it at all. Is that normal?... Read More


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    I go to a community college and we have to have chem (and bio) within 5 years to move on to A&P.
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    I think Chem should be a pre-req for A&P. When I took A&P I never could wrap my mind around some of the concepts. Now that I have taken Chem, it is all much clearer. I truly think a disservice is being done not to require Chem. The program I am trying to get into does not require Chem. You do have to have another science series either Chem I&II, Bio I&II, or Physics I&II. The nursing advisor told me that Chem would be the most helpful. With my hands shaking I signed up for Chem and it was the best thing I had done. One chapter on Chemistry at the front of your A&P book is not enough. I would strongly recomend taking Chem even if it is not part of your program.
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    Quote from GrnTea
    Seriously? Knowing that a protein molecule, for example, has parts that interact with parts of drug molecules and that's why the drug is structured to work to block the protein, thus treatinmg the disease state. Knowing that positive and negative charges are why and how fluids and electrolytes travel across cell membranes. Knowing what osmolarity is and why there are may causes of edema. Knowing that the way sodium channels work is how a nerve impuse travels along an axon and the membrane repolarizes (and hey, what's "repolarizes"?), so when serum sodium is deranged, you get neuro effects. Knowing how calcium ion charges affect neuromuscular communication. When somebody says a drug is a MAO inhibitor, what's that mean? I could go on and on."I don't need to know that to take care of patients." Oh, probably not, if you are satisfied with what's apparently turning into drone/superCNA/task-oriented training. IMHO, though, loss of that sort of bigger picture makes for a limited practice. More education makes you more able to understand what you're seeing and what should be happening. That's the nurse I want.
    Wow. So because I ask what you mean by chemical structure, I'm immediately unsuitable or incompetent for nursing? That's hilarious & nice to know by the way. Thanks for that. And although you didn't say I was, I know what you are insinuating. Repolarizes? Yeah, I knew what that meant. Of course i did. I think Chemistry should be required but a little fear of the subject does not make us dumb or unfit for nursing. All of what you explained in your previous post, I understood. That's because of a great background in A&P 1 & 2. I really don't like when people try to undermine or make someone feel lesser than what they truly are just because they may be a little hesitant or uncertain about how to approach a subject or about a subject as a whole. You're like some of the kids I take classes with whom look at you with disgust or shame when you ask the professor to go over something again or if you ask him a question regarding the previous topics you covered before. Do I like Chemistry? No. Lol. It's my very very least favorite subject. But, I won't let anything stop me from being a nurse. I will take on Chemistry and I will excel at it. I will feel very good about it and I will be one step closer to helping the millions of people who may need my help. People want nurses whom of course are smart, (which you obviously have no trouble in that area right?) loving, encouraging, compassionate, and uplifting. Did I mention uplifting? To all my fellow pre nursing students we can do this. I love to encourage people. But hey you guys be sure to tackle that Chemistry because if you don't you're an inadequate human being who should probably think about another profession because you won't be the type of nurse that people "want."

    Oh how I love my sarcasm. Not replying to this particular thread anymore! see ya guys on other threads
    Last edit by brenay on Jan 6, '13
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    Oh please. If that were true, every nursing school would require it just as they require A&P. The fact that a large number of schools deem it optional tells you something. It's not like you're going to be expected to balance a chemical equation at the bedside. Not sure why people act like you do.
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    My ADN program does not require any chem, but the 3 BSN programs in my city do, So if I plan on getting a BSN in the future I will have to tackle that beast. I chose this ADN program specifically for the lack of chemistry requirement. I have bad memories from HS chem that I would not like to re live!
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    The community colleges in my area do not require chemistry, but to bridge into the BSNS programs, I think all require chemistry and history (which I will take at my leisure after I finish my ADN)... Fair enough trade off, IMO... I can work as an RN sooner this way but finish up my degree fully in the long term
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    I don't like chem too much. I took it in 2010 for the ADN program I was applying to and got a B. Then I moved out of state and now that class doesn't even matter haha. It really depends on the individual school if you have to take it or not. I don't think it really will help me be a better nurse. If chem is a requirement it is usually just chem 1 and you don't get completely in depth with it.
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    My ADN program doesn't require chemistry, but my bridge program does.

    I have take chemistry, however, and I haven't really met up with any nursing components that absolutely required an in depth knowledge of chemistry. Perhaps there have been a few things that I didn't have to learn thanks to past courses, but nothing that wasn't/couldn't be taught on a simple level in nursing school.

    I have no issue with expecting nurses to have a string science background, but chemistry? I'm not aghast over it. I think a chemistry for allied health course would be a great addition.
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    Yea-huh! My patient needs to know that he's on a diuretic, and I'm gonna be all like, "So you don't absorb the ions which include electrons and protons and it's chemically impossible to have electrons with identical quantum numbers, so therefore you either have a negative or positive charges, in which your case you have a decreased positive charge, a cation, because er.... You're peeing more because you have too much fluid.

    Sorry...
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    Quote from GrnTea
    Seriously?

    Knowing that a protein molecule, for example, has parts that interact with parts of drug molecules and that's why the drug is structured to work to block the protein, thus treating the disease state. Knowing that positive and negative charges are why and how fluids and electrolytes travel across cell membranes. Knowing what osmolarity is and why there are may causes of edema. Knowing that the way sodium channels work is how a nerve impuse travels along an axon and the membrane repolarizes (and hey, what's "repolarizes"?), so when serum sodium is deranged, you get neuro effects. Knowing how calcium ion charges affect neuromuscular communication. When somebody says a drug is a MAO inhibitor, what's that mean? I could go on and on.

    "I don't need to know that to take care of patients." Oh, probably not, if you are satisfied with what's apparently turning into drone/superCNA/task-oriented training. IMHO, though, loss of that sort of bigger picture makes for a limited practice. More education makes you more able to understand what you're seeing and what should be happening. That's the nurse I want.
    A bit harsh, huh? Well, my adn program does require chem, bio, micro, a&p 1 and 2. But, even if it didn't require chem, all of which I highlighted above were reiterated in the additional science courses listed. I'm thinking that some programs are leaving out courses, such as chem, but are incorporating the information into other classes. Probably in order to make their programs shorter, and not with the intention of transforming nurses into "super CNAs". I get what you're trying to say. You just had a jacked up way of expressing it.
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