Are your fellow classmates really serious about nursing? - page 6

I'm taking my pre-reqs in order to apply to the ADN program July 06. I'm in Beginning Algebra along with 5 other pre-nursing majors (class of 17) and I feel like I'm the only one really serious about... Read More

  1. by   nurse2be2007
    I just dont get why people have to be so judgemental of someone elses accomplishments or lack there of. Like I tell my daughter, if a B or C is the best you can do and you gave it your best effort then that is all that matters. The grade doesnt matter, its what you get out of that grade that does matter.

    I happen to be a very good test taker because my mom took me to a seminar when I was in third grade that taught about test taking and the "how to's" of taking test properly. I have utilized those techniques and they have been very useful to me throughout my education. I have been bashed and judged because I get good grades and basically told by someone a couple semesters back that I should keep my grades to myself when we are all sharing our test results.

    I try to encourage my fellow classmates and be supportive of them. I do get good grades and I cant help that and I find that the negativity can go both ways. You have those that look down on others who dont make all A's as if they arent good enough and then you have those that look at the A students as if they are bragging or something. I am proud of my grades and work very hard to achieve them and I will not let anyone make me feel bad for getting those grades. Its this kind of negativity that really disturbs me. I just dont understand why people just cant be supportive of each other whether it is good or bad.

    I really feel sorry for those students that feel like they have to intimidate others to feel better about themselves. I have made some great friends on my journey and I will do anything in my power to help them succeed as they will with me. We help each other and I just wish that everyone could be like this. Nursing school is so cut throat and I believe its the schools that make it this way by making it so competitive to get in.

    Maybe one day compassion will become a human trait
  2. by   Daytonite
    Quote from nurse2be2007
    I just dont get why people have to be so judgemental of someone elses accomplishments or lack there of. . .I happen to be a very good test taker because my mom took me to a seminar when I was in third grade that taught about test taking and the "how to's" of taking test properly. I have utilized those techniques and they have been very useful to me throughout my education. I have been bashed and judged because I get good grades and basically told by someone a couple semesters back that I should keep my grades to myself when we are all sharing our test results. . .I find that the negativity can go both ways. You have those that look down on others who dont make all A's as if they arent good enough and then you have those that look at the A students as if they are bragging or something. I am proud of my grades and work very hard to achieve them
    What you say is so true. After so many years being in and out of school and having taught in a vocational school, I have an understanding of how to study, how to take a test, and how tests are constructed. I still have to work to get my "A"s and have found it best to keep my grades to myself unless other students bug me to find out what I get on a test. They ask after one or two tests and then stop and I don't volunteer anything. It's partly so they won't feel bad themselves and partly so I won't get bashed and ostracized. I've been re-taking the entire sequence of Algebra/Geometry/Trigonometry in order to take Calculus and have been consistently getting the highest grades in these classes and some of the other students know this. What the bashers don't get is that I spend hours working problems at home and consulting supplemental texts in order to understand the concepts we are supposed to learn, something I didn't do 40 years ago in high school which resulted in my failing Calculus before. The fact is, once I started to do well on tests it fed my ego and I wanted more and am willing to put the effort into it. Grades do not come easily without the effort. It's interesting that no one every has asked me "how do you do it?" Everyone just seems inclined to just B&M (B***h and moan).
  3. by   sunnyjohn
    Less competition!
  4. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Math! I am so afraid of math. The hard sciences were fairly easy and fun for me. The math kills me. My heart rate goes up even at the mention of math.

    Even w/ a live in tutor (my dh was a math prof- he thinks vector calculous and differential equations are fun) I just do not have the math neurons in my brain. I admire and envy everyone who does.
  5. by   stpauligirl
    Quote from Daytonite
    What you say is so true. After so many years being in and out of school and having taught in a vocational school, I have an understanding of how to study, how to take a test, and how tests are constructed. I still have to work to get my "A"s and have found it best to keep my grades to myself unless other students bug me to find out what I get on a test. They ask after one or two tests and then stop and I don't volunteer anything. It's partly so they won't feel bad themselves and partly so I won't get bashed and ostracized. I've been re-taking the entire sequence of Algebra/Geometry/Trigonometry in order to take Calculus and have been consistently getting the highest grades in these classes and some of the other students know this. What the bashers don't get is that I spend hours working problems at home and consulting supplemental texts in order to understand the concepts we are supposed to learn, something I didn't do 40 years ago in high school which resulted in my failing Calculus before. The fact is, once I started to do well on tests it fed my ego and I wanted more and am willing to put the effort into it. Grades do not come easily without the effort. It's interesting that no one every has asked me "how do you do it?" Everyone just seems inclined to just B&M (B***h and moan).
    I wholeheartedly agree with the two of you.....what makes things worse in my case is that I have a learning disability on top of everything ( I had a potentially deadly illness which affected my brain 4 years ago) and I get the highest grades in class. You know that making good grades takes alot of work for me... more work than the average person and I don't use my disability as an excuse. What I see as the problem in my A&P class is the following: too many people take this class too lightly and don't study enough. Too many think that it is ok to either don't show up to class at all, or are chronically late or leave early. Some people have not figured out that they need to provide their own scantrons (paying for it) and if they need photocopies of something that they need dimes for the photocopy machine....and not for me to provide that for them. English is my second language and yes, you need to speak and understand ENGLISH! Tests are not given in any other languages! It's one thing to help someone who tries and works hard, compassion is definitely called for in those cases. But for those who are downright lazy and think that I am a charity organization, or worse yet, because I am foreign I owe them a scantron and free photocopies: I have bad news, get lost! :spin:
  6. by   KatieBell
    Quote from Daytonite
    It's interesting that no one every has asked me "how do you do it?" Everyone just seems inclined to just B&M (B***h and moan).

    Daytonite-
    I had some students once ask me how I managed to get "such good grades" So I explained about how I had a system of study...included index cards, reading the test book (heavens no!) and notes...it wasn't so fancy. The girls told me, "Oh, that sounds like ti is too much work to be worth it." Oh well, guess they didn't particularly want to work for it...:wink2:
  7. by   stpauligirl
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    Math! I am so afraid of math. The hard sciences were fairly easy and fun for me. The math kills me. My heart rate goes up even at the mention of math.

    Even w/ a live in tutor (my dh was a math prof- he thinks vector calculous and differential equations are fun) I just do not have the math neurons in my brain. I admire and envy everyone who does.
    I don't have a math brain either.....maybe find someone else but your husband as a tutor? My husband is smart and was able to help me with numerous hurdles in numerous classes but he DRIVES me crazy how he explains things, which inhibits my ability to learn. Good luck and keelp trying, thank goodness I don't need calculus.
    BTW, the bedpan is half full
  8. by   hope3456
    I just graduated nsg school....made it through the prereqs with almost straight A's . However, I refused to judge my classmates on their grades or let them judge me for my grades. I thought some of them were way too critical of each other and it was a waste. And in the end, it doesn't really matter what your grades are as long as they are passing.

    Some people are just better test takers than others, is what it comes down to. But some people who dont do so well on multiple choice tests retain the info better. In the end, all that matters is that you pass the NCLEX. I have heard of straight A students that fail the NCLEX...hmmmm....And some of the best nurses I know told me they didn't pass the NCLEX the first time. Also, none of the jobs I interviewed for asked me about my grades.

    Quote from Nurse-To-Be-Joy
    I also take my A&P I on Fri. night/Sat. morning and almost everone in there is very hard-working. There are a few girls (who are ESL) that have trouble and I don't think they're going to last. They make jokes about the work, but I think it's because they can't really understand it.

    There are another two girls who work very hard, but just can't get it. One is a CNA and the other is returning to school after being home with her three kids for years. I feel bad for them because I know they study hard... but a C is the best they have done so far.
    Last edit by hope3456 on Oct 19, '05
  9. by   nurse2be2007
    Quote from Daytonite
    What you say is so true. After so many years being in and out of school and having taught in a vocational school, I have an understanding of how to study, how to take a test, and how tests are constructed. I still have to work to get my "A"s and have found it best to keep my grades to myself unless other students bug me to find out what I get on a test. They ask after one or two tests and then stop and I don't volunteer anything. It's partly so they won't feel bad themselves and partly so I won't get bashed and ostracized. I've been re-taking the entire sequence of Algebra/Geometry/Trigonometry in order to take Calculus and have been consistently getting the highest grades in these classes and some of the other students know this. What the bashers don't get is that I spend hours working problems at home and consulting supplemental texts in order to understand the concepts we are supposed to learn, something I didn't do 40 years ago in high school which resulted in my failing Calculus before. The fact is, once I started to do well on tests it fed my ego and I wanted more and am willing to put the effort into it. Grades do not come easily without the effort. It's interesting that no one every has asked me "how do you do it?" Everyone just seems inclined to just B&M (B***h and moan).
    Daytonite

    Boy do I know that feeling. In high school I didnt care about anything except my boyfriend and friends. I didnt apply myself at all. After high school I got married, had my daughters and became a SAHM. Now that I am in college finally LOL, I find myself being one of those "over achievers", although I dont consider myself OVER achieving rather just achieving. I study hard for myself and nothing more. It's ironic how some people think that because I get A's on my test that I am somehow doing it just hurt them. Ok so I woke up one day and said, "I am going to start college so I can make all A's just to piss the other students off." Please!!!!!

    What some of these people dont realize is that I was scared to death to start classes, I didnt know what to expect, what the classes were like or the course work for that matter. I had no self confidence because I didnt do so well in high school. I just vowed to myself that I was going to do the best I could by studying hard and not procrastinating. When all that studying paid off with the grades I was getting, yes I was excited and yes I wanted the whole world to know. Did I want to make others feel bad, NO WAY, I was just tickled pink that I actually made the grade that I had set out to do. Just remember that those that are bashing you for your great grades are probably insecure with themselves. Not everyone was like this though and so I just steer clear of those that are negative and bashers. They have issues that I dont want to be around.

    Now 4 semesters later I keep my grades to myself. Last semester in A&PII it would piss people off that I wouldnt tell them what I got on a test. I told my friend but she sat next to me so I didnt really have a choice and one day she slipped and told one of the other girls what our scores were. They almost had a heart attack. I guess they thought that because I wasnt revealing my scores that I wasnt doing very good. I just let them think what they wanted, like I have said, I am not here for them I am here for me. Keep in mind not everyone is like this, most people for the most part are very compassionate and supportive. It's those select few (which you seem to get in every class) that really try to discourage you by making you feel bad for your grades. I am at a different campus now, one more in the inner city and I have found that the diversity there creates a more warm and inviting atmosphere. Everyone is so much more encouraging and supportive.

    Daytonite, just keep doing what your doing and dont let those bashers get to you.
  10. by   cjcsoon2bnp
    I think the issue really is that your so early in your pre-reqs. I am in my first semester of my ADN RN program and I am in early pre-reqs but I have tested above some of the pre-reqs (like college algebra) so the classes I am in now a good number of the people seem very serious about nursing, and yet there are some who seem to be barely skating by.

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