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Mar 27, '12 by dianajh73I am just finishing the Masters portion of the ELM CNS course, although I will have to take 2 more courses in the Fall in order to sit for the National CNS certification test for Adult/Gero and Nurse Educator, I will have CA state CNS.
The trick with CSUF is to get information from students in the courses or attend council meetings because the staff are VERY bad not to provide information or seem to think they are clear when students are scratching their collective heads.
They are no longer offering the program in the format we took (18 month RN and 18 month Masters), so I believe that it will take longer to complete, but they are hoping to retain more students. We have lost about 50% of our initial group because they got jobs and could not continue to focus on school, or got frustrated with the program and re-evaluated. It is a VERY long 3 yr program when your only break is over Christmas & New Years. Plus the first Summer we had to take 18 units in 14 weeks and it was psychotic. Teamwork is the only way through if you take that many units simultaneously. We became a very close cohort.
From what I have seen and heard here, all nursing programs have their challenges.
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Mar 27, '12 by Faith2bNPQuote from dianajh73Thanks for the feedback! I have a few questions if/when you have a minute. Did most of them drop out during the 18 mo RN or 18 mo Masters portion? Were you required to work after you completed the 18 mo RN portion? If so, full or part-time? How many days/wk were the Masters classes and were they taught in the evening?I am just finishing the Masters portion of the ELM CNS course, although I will have to take 2 more courses in the Fall in order to sit for the National CNS certification test for Adult/Gero and Nurse Educator, I will have CA state CNS.
The trick with CSUF is to get information from students in the courses or attend council meetings because the staff are VERY bad not to provide information or seem to think they are clear when students are scratching their collective heads.
They are no longer offering the program in the format we took (18 month RN and 18 month Masters), so I believe that it will take longer to complete, but they are hoping to retain more students. We have lost about 50% of our initial group because they got jobs and could not continue to focus on school, or got frustrated with the program and re-evaluated. It is a VERY long 3 yr program when your only break is over Christmas & New Years. Plus the first Summer we had to take 18 units in 14 weeks and it was psychotic. Teamwork is the only way through if you take that many units simultaneously. We became a very close cohort.
From what I have seen and heard here, all nursing programs have their challenges.
Good Luck - Mar 28, '12 by dianajh73We only lost 4 of our original 43 during the RN portion, and that was during the summer. Everyone else made it to the end I believe. I think only about 26 or so moved on into the masters and we lost a few more after they started it. They allowed others to join our group so that we have a full cohort, it is just made up of both original ELMers plus add ins.
You are not required to work. It is actually difficult with the 200hr/semester clinical hours, although it does make placement easier because you can do clinical hrs where you work, although you cannot be paid for clinical hours.
Classes in Masters are typically 2 nights a week( 2-3hrs ea), but with the clinicals and homework it takes more to be successfulFaith2bNP likes this. - Mar 31, '12 by Faith2bNPQuote from dianajh73I tried to send you a personal message but it won't let me. I don't have enough posts! Congrats on making it to the end of the program! I just applied to their ELM Clinical Nurse Specialist/Nurse Educator program that starts this May. I spoke with the chair person and she said they changed the summer schedule! Yay! She said we would find out if we were accepted before May 1st!We only lost 4 of our original 43 during the RN portion, and that was during the summer. Everyone else made it to the end I believe. I think only about 26 or so moved on into the masters and we lost a few more after they started it. They allowed others to join our group so that we have a full cohort, it is just made up of both original ELMers plus add ins.
You are not required to work. It is actually difficult with the 200hr/semester clinical hours, although it does make placement easier because you can do clinical hrs where you work, although you cannot be paid for clinical hours.
Classes in Masters are typically 2 nights a week( 2-3hrs ea), but with the clinicals and homework it takes more to be successful - Mar 31, '12 by Faith2bNPQuote from dianajh73<br><br>I tried to send you a personal message but it won't let me. I don't have enough posts! Congrats on making it to the end of the program! I just applied to their ELM Clinical Nurse Specialist/Nurse Educator program that starts this May. I spoke with the chair person and she said they changed the summer schedule! Yay! She said we would find out if we were accepted before May 1st!We only lost 4 of our original 43 during the RN portion, and that was during the summer. Everyone else made it to the end I believe. I think only about 26 or so moved on into the masters and we lost a few more after they started it. They allowed others to join our group so that we have a full cohort, it is just made up of both original ELMers plus add ins.<br>
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You are not required to work. It is actually difficult with the 200hr/semester clinical hours, although it does make placement easier because you can do clinical hrs where you work, although you cannot be paid for clinical hours.<br>
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Classes in Masters are typically 2 nights a week( 2-3hrs ea), but with the clinicals and homework it takes more to be successful - Apr 24, '12 by olvr00to dianajh73
hi, I applied to the masters program of Fresno State. I have a BSN degree. The department received my application on the 29th and the university forwarded my application to them. I received a mail saying that my application has been forwarded to the department for further review and it may take a few weeks before they come to a decision. I'm just wondering if you have any idea when they usually send out acceptance letters/email to the msn program applicants. The Web page says the deadline for application to the department is on April 1 and the result will be known by May 15. Another link is says May 1 is the deadline. I just want to know if you have any idea. I've been trying to search the Internet and forums but this is the closest one i could find. Thank you in advance...
- Apr 24, '12 by dianajh73Considering that they are starting another ELM group in May (that may be the discrepancy in your dates BTW), I wouldn't expect a response about the regular MSN program until end of May at the earliest, but that is just a guess. I know when I joined the ELM program we had 2 weeks notice before the program started. A couple of people on the wait list were called the day the program started and told if they could make it, they were in, because we had a couple of ppl drop out within a few hours of starting.
Afraid I can't give you any more info than that. With CSUF Nursing it is often a matter of hurry up and wait. Calling constantly isn't a good idea, but I would call and ask the week after Memorial Day, if you don't hear before then, since that is when ELM III begins.
Good luck - Apr 24, '12 by olvr00Thanks dianajh73, your reply is very helpful. If I don't really want to call them but I will call if I don't receive anything by the week of Memorial Day. Good luck to you too.
- Apr 28, '12 by olvr00Anyone here who applied to the MS program of Fresno State for the Fall of 2010 who got his/her letter of acceptance or rejection from Fresno State? Thanks...
- Apr 29, '12 by olvr00Quote from olvr00I mean 2012...Anyone here who applied to the MS program of Fresno State for the Fall of 2012 who got his/her letter of acceptance or rejection from Fresno State? Thanks...
