Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by mishi88

Ok here's the scenario for some Filipino nurses here in the Philippines and why they prefer to go in UK under a student visa. Normally a Staff nurse here working 8 hours a day with the sum up of 40 hours per week . If you work on a private hospital you are being paid of 8000 pesos or only $160 for one month less 20% for taxes, insurance etc .If you want to work on a public hospital you will get 15000 or $300 dollars less tax and insurance but you have to handle 60 patients.Can you get the picture. If you family you cant survive in 160 dollars. Some of my friends are now in UK and they save almost 100,000 pesos monthly. and enbale to send money to support her family. Maybe some didnt understand but this is really what is happening. I am just stating a fact and I am not angry to Suzanne. I just want suggestion for other nurses who really need options in order to survive. As for me, I am not in hurry to go abroad.

That gives way to money making schemes and abuse. I do know how much money was sent by my collegues, there were and worked as RN's though! But this is still no reason to go this way, there are allways alternatives. Plus most of those schemes if not all ask for money first, where do people get that money?

5cats

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by 5cats

That gives way to money making schemes and abuse. I do know how much money was sent by my collegues, there were and worked as RN's though! But this is still no reason to go this way, there are allways alternatives. Plus most of those schemes if not all ask for money first, where do people get that money?

I wouldn't call it a "scheme" exactly. The consultation services that I know of here are very transparent with the nurse about exactly what is going to happen.

The money comes from a cooperative effort of the entire family to send a single person overseas. Generations of this sort of method have proven to the Filipino that the benefits greatly outweigh the cost.

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What about those of us who might just want a little change of scenery while training to become nurses? Would the UK admissions/immigration be as hostile to those of us who have definite plans of going back to our hometowns (or at least home countries) to practice?

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by parfum

What about those of us who might just want a little change of scenery while training to become nurses? Would the UK admissions/immigration be as hostile to those of us who have definite plans of going back to our hometowns (or at least home countries) to practice?

It's not about being hostile, the fact is there there are not enough jobs in the UK for UK citizens with unemployment at a record high, we have to employ our own countrymen first therefore unless you meet the criteria for a work permit your not going to be able to work. So even if you want a change of scenery, your not going to get work.

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by sharrie

It's not about being hostile, the fact is there there are not enough jobs in the UK for UK citizens with unemployment at a record high, we have to employ our own countrymen first therefore unless you meet the criteria for a work permit your not going to be able to work. So even if you want a change of scenery, your not going to get work.

sorry, i think my post was completely misread. my point was that we only want an education in a different part of the world. then, we want to come back home to the good ol' usa.

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by parfum

sorry, i think my post was completely misread. my point was that we only want an education in a different part of the world. then, we want to come back home to the good ol' usa.

Unfortunately that isn't what we are seeing here but people asking how easy is it to move across stay and work as a nurse. It is being used as a type of short cut and skip immigration requirements. Plus many are not from the good ol' USA

I can understand people wanting to further educate themselves but I can't understand why people with a BSN want to do a NVQ course (that is lower than a BSN) that hasn't any real education value outside the UK. Also the UK is suffering like the USA with high unemployment so really UK citizens or legal residents should come first and there are plenty of UK students graduating from nursing school struggling to find work

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so, why are they still recruiting foreign caregivers? they could just send them home after their contracts expire and hire the new UK grads, then...

also, i should probably stop using "we" and change it to saying "i" -- as in I just want to try a different place to study for a while and then come back home is that clearer?

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by parfum

so, why are they still recruiting foreign caregivers? they could just send them home after their contracts expire and hire the new UK grads, then...

also, i should probably stop using "we" and change it to saying "i" -- as in I just want to try a different place to study for a while and then come back home is that clearer?

They are not recruiting foreign caregivers, these nurses are coming over on educational programs and working the limited 20 hours per week that is permitted under a student visa, any more than that they are breaking the law. So it wouldn't be appropriate to hire UK grads into non qualified positions.

I understand that you want to experience different cultures and study in a different country, so maybe one of these courses would be appropriate for you, but they would not give you a nursing qualification. I think I put some links up in your other post about nurse training in the UK which may be of use (or may not )

It may also be worth looking at maybe including an "elective" into your US nurse training so that maybe you could come over to the UK as a student and work alongside UK student nurses although I am not sure how easy, or possible this is to do. Again you would need to contact the university and make sure your nursing school would allow it as well

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If you are a nurse in the USA, I believe you can register with UK Nursing Midwifery Council. You can then work here in UK as a nurse. Anyway, you can check the website of NMC to get the details.

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by nurseinuk

If you are a nurse in the USA, I believe you can register with UK Nursing Midwifery Council. You can then work here in UK as a nurse. Anyway, you can check the website of NMC to get the details.

Even if you get registered with the NMC you still have to get sorted with a work permit and if not from the EU or have experience in the shortage occupation list will find it very hard regardless if from the US or elsewhere