Re: Working and studying in the UK

Suzanne, lets not get personal here. You said "Just because your mother has an agency or consultancy as you call it, she is not the one that issues the visas either." I never claim that my mother has a say in issuing a visa. It is a previlege to be issued a visa and NO ONE ABSOLUTELY NO OINE has a claim to that. Only God and the issuing offier knows what the result will be.

Our thread here, as I see it, is putting in writing what each one of us beleives in and in other cases what they actually know and experienced in order to be of help to the readers. I am here for instance to write what little I KNOW as it happens. About the visa, NOT everyone is lucky enough to be granted a student visa. When I worked in an airline and was in charge of international packages ( USA, EUROPE, ASIA, AUSTRALIA) I learned that even those who are financially well off got rejected. There is no clear cut of getting your visa approved. Those who have tried applying from a third world country knows this. But I am already digressing from the topic. Sorry.

Let's go back .

Tier 2 - general website : http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/wo...tier2/general/

This section explains how you can come or stay in the skilled worker category (Tier 2 General) under our points-based system to work in the United Kingdom.

What is the skilled worker category?
Who can apply as a skilled worker?
How long can you stay for?

It will be too long if I paste everything in this thread. I suggest to those interested to just visit this website http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/wo...tier2/general/
You will find all the answers such as how much point per qualification, how many years experienced required, funds, processing time,etc. It will even lead you to a link of how and where you can have your qualifications evaluated (NARIC). You will get the COMPLETE INFORMATION IN THIS WEBSITE. And to you guys , I wish you good luck and success this 2009 and I pray that God will quide your way. When you gain success, I ask that you just pay forward..... DO NOT THINK OF ANY MONETARY REWARDS. BELEIVE IN KARMA !

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Hi.Good day to everyone..I would like to ask if I come to the UK and study nursing directly will it give me the oppurtunity to work there as RN?Or What is "Adaptation Course" in UK? Thank you so much!!!

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by aNgeLnUrZ

Hi.Good day to everyone..I would like to ask if I come to the UK and study nursing directly will it give me the oppurtunity to work there as RN?Or What is "Adaptation Course" in UK? Thank you so much!!!

Studying in the UK will be expensive and not give you any opportunities to work in the UK. Preference will be given to a UK citizen due to the nature of how the courses are run.

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by aNgeLnUrZ

Hi.Good day to everyone..I would like to ask if I come to the UK and study nursing directly will it give me the opportunity to work there as RN?Or What is "Adaptation Course" in UK? Thank you so much!!!

You would not be able to study nursing in the UK as an overseas student as there are no universities that I know of accept international students onto the nursing course even if you were succesful when you qualify unless you have very specific skills such as critical care and the organisations that advertise these positions can not fill them from the entire UK and EU nursing populations (which is very unlikely) then you are not going to get work. Even after that

s depressing, but it's the reality of nursing in the UK. By all means read the immigration website and what you need to do, it clearly states the requirements and shortage occupations. You will need significant experience in these areas to even stand a chance at getting shortlisted.

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by Serene_ieg

Suzanne, lets not get personal here. You said "Just because your mother has an agency or consultancy as you call it, she is not the one that issues the visas either." I never claim that my mother has a say in issuing a visa. It is a previlege to be issued a visa and NO ONE ABSOLUTELY NO OINE has a claim to that. Only God and the issuing offier knows what the result will be.

Our thread here, as I see it, is putting in writing what each one of us beleives in and in other cases what they actually know and experienced in order to be of help to the readers. I am here for instance to write what little I KNOW as it happens.

As are we Serene, I live in the UK, I know very well the reality of the level of poverty students live in. I have nothing to gain by telling the reality of it, I am not so sure the same could be said about someone who has a vested interest in recruiting into these agencies

Let's go back .

Tier 2 - general website : http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/wo...tier2/general/

This section explains how you can come or stay in the skilled worker category (Tier 2 General) under our points-based system to work in the United Kingdom.

What is the skilled worker category?
Who can apply as a skilled worker?
How long can you stay for?

It will be too long if I paste everything in this thread. I suggest to those interested to just visit this website http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/wo...tier2/general/
You will find all the answers such as how much point per qualification, how many years experienced required, funds, processing time,etc. It will even lead you to a link of how and where you can have your qualifications evaluated (NARIC). You will get the COMPLETE INFORMATION IN THIS WEBSITE. And to you guys , I wish you good luck and success this 2009 and I pray that God will quide your way. When you gain success, I ask that you just pay forward..... DO NOT THINK OF ANY MONETARY REWARDS. BELEIVE IN KARMA !

of course get your qualifications evaluated, but also read very carefully what this website says, you are only going to get sponsored for a visa if you work in a shortage occupation, there are a few nursing specialities listed, but these will expect a significant amount of experience within these area, so new grads will not qualify, neither will someone who has spent 2 years studying for a course that is not classed as nursing such as the ones described in this thread. If you do have the sufficient experience you will ONLY be considered after UK and EU nurses have been given the opportunity and that employer can demonstrate that they have been unable to fill from this group of nurses, they really do have to prove that they have made a significant effort to recruit from home grown nurses, and this is absolutely as it should be.

As far as monetary rewards, you obviously have not nursed in the UK.

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hi everyone..can anyone explain me what is "Adaptation Course"?Thanks so much!!!

Re: Working and studying in the UK

The adaptation course is the course that the nursing and midwifery council insists all overseas nurses undertake before they allow them to register to practice in the UK

Re: Working and studying in the UK

TIER 2 SKILLED GENERAL (WORK PERMIT). Source Border and Immigration website

How points are awarded for initial applications

A total of 70 points across the different criteria before assigning your certificate of sponsorship.
The 70 points must include 10 points for maintenance and 10 points for English language skills.

Criteria for points :

A.
- up to 50 points available
If the job is on the shortage occupation list 50
If the job meets the resident labour market test 30
If the migrant is switching from a post-study worker category 30
Qualifications

- up to 15 points available
None or under the level of a qualification below degree level 0
Qualification below degree level 5
Bachelor's or master's degree 10
PhD 15

B. Future expected earnings

- up to 20 points available
Less than £17,000 0
£17,000 - £19,999 5
£20,000 - £21,999 10
£22,000 - £23,999 15
£24,000 or more 20

C. Maintenance - 10 points available £800 10

D. English language skills

- 10 points available
If the migrant is a national of a majority English speaking country
or
If the migrant has passed an English language test
or
If the migrant has a degree taught in English 10 points

Re: Working and studying in the UK

Originally Posted by Serene_ieg

TIER 2 SKILLED GENERAL (WORK PERMIT). Source Border and Immigration website

How points are awarded for initial applications

A total of 70 points across the different criteria before assigning your certificate of sponsorship.
The 70 points must include 10 points for maintenance and 10 points for English language skills.

Criteria for points :

A.
- up to 50 points available
If the job is on the shortage occupation list 50
If the job meets the resident labour market test 30
If the migrant is switching from a post-study worker category 30
Qualifications

- up to 15 points available
None or under the level of a qualification below degree level 0
Qualification below degree level 5
Bachelor's or master's degree 10
PhD 15

B. Future expected earnings

- up to 20 points available
Less than £17,000 0
£17,000 - £19,999 5
£20,000 - £21,999 10
£22,000 - £23,999 15
£24,000 or more 20

C. Maintenance - 10 points available £800 10

D. English language skills

- 10 points available
If the migrant is a national of a majority English speaking country
or
If the migrant has passed an English language test
or
If the migrant has a degree taught in English 10 points

By my calculations then

Some one with experience with the job on the shortage occupation list or band 7/8 50 points
BSN 10 points
earnings 15 points (may get 20 depending on employer and grade)
Maintenance 10 points
English skills 10 points

total equal to 95 (100) points

New grade with no experience
BSN 10 points
Maintenance 10 points
Earnings 15 points
English skills 10 points

Total 45 points

The likelihood on meeting the resident labour market test in the current UK situation would be very hard as many businesses are closing with workers having to look elsewhere plus the British government is trying hard to get it's own citizens back to work

Re: Working and studying in the UK

I have spoken to several family members and friends this last week and amazed on how much has changed in the 8 months since I left the UK. Businesses that had been around for many decades are closing, Banks/building societies are struggling or being bought out by other companies. I really do feel that things are really tough in the UK at the moment and expecting to find work even as a carer is going to be hard. I understand things are hard in the Philippines but many countries are having economic problems and jobs are suffering, people are looking at other ways to get skills to work and this means employing foreign workers will also suffer