Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

Originally Posted by mrmiyagi

thanks for the reply guys. i'm currently looking for a job in a hospital in manila(capital of the philippines). it's harder to get a job here due to the volume of nurses in manila. i'm thinking of trying to get hospital experience from one of the provinces if i don't find a hospital in the city.

does it matter if my hospital experience is from the city of from the province?
does it matter how big(bed capacity) the hospital is?

thanks.

i think it doesnt matter as long as its paid work. im from way down south in cagayan de oro city. as to the bed capacity, it does matter. some hospitals require at least a 300 bed capacity. Again maybe it depends on the employer. my current employer accepted me even if i came from a 100 plus capacity tertiary hospital.Its a tertiary hospital though. Even in my city, the fresh grads are having a hard time looking for a job.

Good luck on the job hunting! =)

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

Originally Posted by Hushdawg

Maryland should release your license since you are an NCLEX passer as long as you have fulfilled all of their requirements.

I'd reccomend getting a job in a US-based hospital in Dubai or Saudi Arabia for a year or two while you are processing your visa and waiting on retrogression to come around to your filing date.

DO NOT PAY TO WORK!!!

This is a scam and it is illegitimate
Additionally, the "work experience" you gain while paying to work won't mean anything to a US employer!

You worked for 4 years to get a BSN and now you are going to pay to use it? that's ridiculous.. it makes your degree worthless.
Don't do it.

After living here in RPH for more than two years I definitely have an appreciation for how little the government cares for its people; but paying for experience is not the way. Nurses need to boycott this practice.

Does US hospitals require their trainees to pay? I'm curious because some big hospitals here in the Philippines have Basic Nursing Training? It seems likes it is a must for these hospitals to require their future employees with training that...again...involves a fee.

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

Originally Posted by mrmiyagi

thanks for the reply guys. i'm currently looking for a job in a hospital in manila(capital of the philippines). it's harder to get a job here due to the volume of nurses in manila. i'm thinking of trying to get hospital experience from one of the provinces if i don't find a hospital in the city.

does it matter if my hospital experience is from the city of from the province?
does it matter how big(bed capacity) the hospital is?

thanks.

It doesn't matter where you get it in the city or in the provinces. What matters is that you're getting experience as a nurse in a hospital setting. I know that hospitals also hire RN's who worked in a nursing home and have no hospital experience. IMO, if you can work in the nursing home, then you can adjust working in the hospital. Good Luck!

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

It doesn't technically matter about the size of the hospital as long as you are getting paid clinical work. You should keep account of your Nurse:PT ratios for interview purposes in the future. Bear in mind that US hospital admins don't always understand that in RPH it can be just as hectic in a small rural hospital as it can be in a large city hospital due to the sliding ratios.

Additionally, DOLE is opening up more slots for the NARS program so you can try to get into that for a good, solid 6 months to a year of clinical experience that is both paid and unique for your resume'.

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

Originally Posted by Hushdawg

It doesn't technically matter about the size of the hospital as long as you are getting paid clinical work. You should keep account of your Nurse:PT ratios for interview purposes in the future. Bear in mind that US hospital admins don't always understand that in RPH it can be just as hectic in a small rural hospital as it can be in a large city hospital due to the sliding ratios.

Additionally, DOLE is opening up more slots for the NARS program so you can try to get into that for a good, solid 6 months to a year of clinical experience that is both paid and unique for your resume'.

regarding that NARS, when you said unique. does that mean good?

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

I meant unique in that it is clinical experience for a government project that will allow you to work in difficult rural environments as well as hospital environments. It will look good at a future job interview!

You can also check out the Rizal Provencial government. I have been informed that they provide 3 month paid employment for nurses to help beef up experience.

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

Originally Posted by piquant

Does US hospitals require their trainees to pay? I'm curious because some big hospitals here in the Philippines have Basic Nursing Training? It seems likes it is a must for these hospitals to require their future employees with training that...again...involves a fee.

In the US, nurses do not pay for training when they start a new job! There is an orientation period when you start a new job, and you are paid during that orientation. No American nurse would ever even think of paying for the "privilege" of working.
Why would I work for free? I spent a long time getting a nursing license, and I would be very insulted if a hospital wanted me to pay them in order to work there! It would never happen.

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

im really frustrated with the nursing situation here in the Philippines. anywhere you apply they are either on freeze hiring or just open for volunteer experience (of course without pay some will even ask for a fee), that will not entail any staff nurse position even if you've been volunteering for them for over a year. ofcourse there's the promise of being given a certificate for the time (energy and your parents' money) you spent with them but, unfortunately some job openings abroad requires atleast a year of work experience (meaning paid) in a hospital setting.ARGGGh... then again, there's the problem with the "Backer (PALAKASAN) Movement". people who belong to this group are those who have conections inside the hospital or related to a government official. im sorry to say but i hate these people because most of them don't even have any basic skills like IVT or spent even a month as a volunteer, they are right away employed as a staff nurse. it sucks!

i don't know if i will just give in and work as call center agent instead. but my dillema is i really want to work in a hospital setting because i somewhat love being and working as a nurse inspite of all these crap!

i think what im really frustrated about are the kind of people we have in our government and the only thing that might change come 2010 is the person sitting in Malacanang. the same old problems will still remain the same not only for nurses but for all pinoys as a whole. there will still be the ever present lack of opportunity for most of us..

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

Originally Posted by arvicharlie

im really frustrated with the nursing situation here in the Philippines. anywhere you apply they are either on freeze hiring or just open for volunteer experience (of course without pay some will even ask for a fee), that will not entail any staff nurse position even if you've been volunteering for them for over a year. ofcourse there's the promise of being given a certificate for the time (energy and your parents' money) you spent with them but, unfortunately some job openings abroad requires atleast a year of work experience (meaning paid) in a hospital setting.

Which is exactly why Nurses in the Philippines should boycott this ridiculous volunteer and pay-to-work scam that hospitals are running. You are spending your time, skills and money and get nothing useful in return. No hospital cares about those certificates.

There is also a bizarre thing in the Philippines that people run around to seminars and such to collect certificates. I see long lists of them on resume's. In all actuality those certificates aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Nobody cares about them.

Go to seminars if you really want to learn the information being presented but for God's sake don't be a certificate collector.

Re: situation: need hospital experience and willing to spend

@HUshdawg:

OUch! im actually one of those certificate collectors attending various seminars and training from some institution who actually says they are recognized by some US organizations. i attend these seminars because i thought that the skills i learned from them will help me land a job abroad, like the mid-east for example, while waiting for the retrogression to be lifted but to no avail most of the agencies here requires the applicant to have atleast one year hospital experience. i'm not sure if being a volunteer will suffice this requirement but earlier a friend told me that they do accept volunteer experience now.

i don't resent attending the seminars/trainings though because i learned a lot from them, specially the ones i attended from an institution who provides certificates that are recognized by some US organization.in fairness to them they follow US standards in teaching us the skills and the providing equipments that we were allowed to have a hands-on practice.i also believe that these skills training helped me in passing the NCLEX-RN.

there are some other options for nurses here in my country like working as a company nurse or a school nurse. again, they require experience and those with experience won't even consider working in these areas because of better opportunities abroad. so for those nurses who like me collected certificates and don't have any hospital experience (because i don't want to volunteer, because i had this impression that volunteering is non-sense waste of time that will not get me anywhere), will still be applying to become a volunteer nurse in the end. its so funny that i've been trying to fight this thing but here i am, i have submitted my application and will be taking the examination to become a volunteer nurse in a hospital here in our province. i will become in a few weeks or months time, one of the reasons why hospitals have been very abusive of us nurses. it is very clear that these hospitals need more staff nurses due to the fact that the nurse patient ratio is atleast 1:10, but they don't, even if the applicants are very much competent and capable, because they take advantage of those willing to volunteer and work without pay. in this way the hospital earn more revenue.

i really can't believe that im giving in to this crap. well i guess since i can't be in the US anytime soon even though i already have my US license due to retrogression and Obama saying that importing nurses is non-sense (due to reccession, ofcourse they are now focusing on giving their citizens decent employment). i'll be stuck here serving my people from the apex of my heart without a salary. this is the career that i have chosen and so i will still try to look at it on the brighter side and make the most out of it. if there's some truth about what my friend told me about volunteering then i think i'll just have to go through with it for a year and then take it from there.anyway people learn from their experiences no matter if its a good or bad experience.