Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

hi guys! i'm new here and i find this forum very helpful. thank you for sharing your knowledge as well as your experience! It's really a great help. I'm now planning to take up nursing on year 2008, probably summer, itll be my 2nd course, i graduated wih a degree in business. And now i have decided to shift my career. The following are my preffered schools:
1. University of makati/pamantasan ng Lunsod ng Makati
2. Manila Doctor's College
3. PWU/Philippine Women's University- Taft.

I prefer to study on one of the schools i mentioned. But i would like to learn more about the quality of education that these schools offer. I wanted to take up my 2nd degree in a good school that offers quality education.
I heard positive feedbacks about Manila Doctors, but it will take me another 4 years to finish the course as they are strict when it comes to the schedule.
PWU offers a 2 yr program for 2nd coursers but i heard a lot of negative things about this school so i was quite disappointed.
While I heard that UMAK seems to be a good school, however, i'm way too far from this school as i live in cavite. Though what is most important to me is the quality of teaching. I would like to pass the NLE. This time. i'll make sure that i'll be more serious with my studies as Nursing is not an easy career.

Please help me which school i should choose. Which among these is better?
I would really apprecate your help.

Thank you and God Bless everyone!

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

Hi everyone, just updating you about my school hunting adventures.

I am thinking of choosing between Capitol Medical and World Citi College. I found out I cannot give duplicate copies of the Honorable Dismissal Certificate (in the hopes of taking entrance exams in both then enrolling in either if I passed in both).

When I was waiting for evaluation in WCC, I chanced upon two girls who said they graduated in 2006, passed the board in 2007 and are having difficulty looking for a hospital job. One said the Philippines has so many nurses the hospitals are not hiring. The other said they have no new news about working abroad, since retrogression is keeping them from getting to the US. Until now, no one has told me what retrogression is in the simplest language, so I don't know what they are talking about.

Just to share info...

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

[Until now, no one has told me what retrogression is in the simplest language, so I don't know what they are talking about.]


It means:

You have thousands of people in line to get their meals; however, there are only a hundred available. So, if you're not in the first 100 people, you have to wait for your turn until meals are made available and ready for the next 100 people, and so on... In terms of the visa retrogression issue, it may take several years for US green card visas available for nurses coming from the Phils. as there are several thousands (also applicants coming from other countries as well) who have been waiting in line.

I hope this helps!

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

Originally Posted by marwan

[Until now, no one has told me what retrogression is in the simplest language, so I don't know what they are talking about.]


It means:

You have thousands of people in line to get their meals; however, there are only a hundred available. So, if you're not in the first 100 people, you have to wait for your turn until meals are made available and ready for the next 100 people, and so on... In terms of the visa retrogression issue, it may take several years for US green card visas available for nurses coming from the Phils. as there are several thousands (also applicants coming from other countries as well) who have been waiting in line.

I hope this helps!

Thank you Marwan for that metaphore. Anyway, I got to chat with an American who has a Filipina girlfriend, she is in the US now with a student visa. According to my friend, a Filipino with a tourist or student visa who is in the US is not covered by the retrogression. Of course, that is just a piece of information, I have no way of knowing if that is true or not.

By the way, I have narrowed my choice down to the Dr. Lanting school in Novaliches. I need an inexpensive yet SAFE place to stay near there, if you guys out there know, please send me a private message or even a post in this thread.

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

Originally Posted by bianca4u

hi guys! i'm new here and i find this forum very helpful. thank you for sharing your knowledge as well as your experience! It's really a great help. I'm now planning to take up nursing on year 2008, probably summer, itll be my 2nd course, i graduated wih a degree in business. And now i have decided to shift my career. The following are my preffered schools:
1. University of makati/pamantasan ng Lunsod ng Makati
2. Manila Doctor's College
3. PWU/Philippine Women's University- Taft.

I prefer to study on one of the schools i mentioned. But i would like to learn more about the quality of education that these schools offer. I wanted to take up my 2nd degree in a good school that offers quality education.
I heard positive feedbacks about Manila Doctors, but it will take me another 4 years to finish the course as they are strict when it comes to the schedule.
PWU offers a 2 yr program for 2nd coursers but i heard a lot of negative things about this school so i was quite disappointed.
While I heard that UMAK seems to be a good school, however, i'm way too far from this school as i live in cavite. Though what is most important to me is the quality of teaching. I would like to pass the NLE. This time. i'll make sure that i'll be more serious with my studies as Nursing is not an easy career.

Please help me which school i should choose. Which among these is better?
I would really apprecate your help.

Thank you and God Bless everyone!

Hello,
I'm on my last trimester of a 22 month program to get my BSN at PWU-QC. I will be the first to tell you that they are not perfect. But they make up for it in helping their students with the administrative aspect of class schedule, duty rotations and just having a understanding attitude. After going to duty with multiple schools and hearing their stories of their school programs I feel lucky I ended up at PWU-QC. I heard of stories of students not liking their present school and wanted to transfer but can't get their school to give them the transcripts. At another school I hear that their clinical instructor wasn't even a nurse or a doctor but a midwife to teach them. I figure when you pay that much money on tuition you deserve the best they can give you. If that is the best then I just have to question why? There are other horror stories you can read about on the official website of the republic of the Philippines forum (http://www.gov.ph/FORUM/default.asp).

Anyone interested in getting your BSN from a reputable college should have PWU at Quezon City on your short list of schools. They have a trimester program for 2nd coursers that will get you to graduation in less than 2 years. It’s not a school for a lazy student. You will have to have the discipline to read and study on your own. They do not spoon feed you the information that you need to pass the boards. They sometimes don’t list the pages you need to read. They believe you are a professional and hence don’t need to tell you the pages numbers. If you can’t find the topic within the textbook then you have bigger issues.

They present the material via powerpoint and it gives you enough information to pass their exams. There is really no need to take notes since they hand you the presentation at the end of class. PWU believes you are there to learn the material and NOT waste your time scribbling down notes. But it will be your job to reinforce the material from the textbooks to fully understand the material for the nursing boards. (Tip: be prepared to look at other textbooks beyond what they recommend)

Related learning experience is not a joke there. They will put you in hospitals working on live people. Other schools have dummies to simulate the real world. PWU sticks you in the real world. This is where you put theory into practice. Don’t worry there will be an instructor (an RN or a Doctor/RN) by your side to help you navigate through your fears as well as get you through your rotation.

As for cheating, well that goes hand-in-hand with schooling. I’ve seen it occur in school and the administration tries to control it. Will the cheating hurt an honest student ….No. PWU has there own way of dealing with it. If you give a half hearted attempt you will pass their exams. But you have to realize continuing a half hearted attempt throughout the 2 years will definitely fail you on the nursing boards. So YES you will pass school, but NO you will not pass the boards. So it begs the question… Why go to school if you won’t pass the boards. So study hard.

Some were asking about weekends and evening classes. PWU doesn’t have evening classes and you will be going to school and going to hospital duty 6 days a week, at different hours. Some rotations you are on days, some you are there overnight. It depends on the rotation. On your last trimester they add Sunday for your review class for the boards. Yes, that means 7 days a week either going to class, going to duty or both. Hey, you wanted to finish ASAP. Then this is the school for you. At least we are by Trinoma and SM north to take your mind off your studies.

They can be reached at Tel. No. 926-9312, 920-6309, 920-6313. They have ongoing quarterly enrollment. So you can enter either June, Sept or Jan Qtr. I recommend coming in during the June batch, just my preference.[/font]

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

hi guys

can anyone kindly inform us the current tuition fees you are paying as a 2nd courser/shifter in the nursing school you're in? (i only need the info for this for the nursing schools in manila but if anyone wants to inform us about his/her school as well even it's in visayas or mindanao i think it's OK too, it might be helpful for those who are staying on that place).

it would be much appreciated if you can detail it coz the tuition you're currently paying might vary as well depending on your sched. but if you'll just mention the amount per unit or amount per sem is fine.



thanks very much. cheers! (",)

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

hi im currently looking for schools in cebu offering weekend classes for nursing. can anyone help me?

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

Originally Posted by alma.ata1978

Thank you Marwan for that metaphore. Anyway, I got to chat with an American who has a Filipina girlfriend, she is in the US now with a student visa. According to my friend, a Filipino with a tourist or student visa who is in the US is not covered by the retrogression. Of course, that is just a piece of information, I have no way of knowing if that is true or not.

By the way, I have narrowed my choice down to the Dr. Lanting school in Novaliches. I need an inexpensive yet SAFE place to stay near there, if you guys out there know, please send me a private message or even a post in this thread.

Sorry, but they are covered by the retrogression as there are no visas available. One cannot work with the student visa either. Nor can one work with the tourist visa.

Eveyone that wishes to work in the US as an RN is under the retrogression as there are no visas to adjust to, even if one is in the US. And going to the US when there were visas available, meant taking cuts in front of others and that is not the way to do things any longer.

There are also only about 10,000 green cards per year from your country and that includes children and spouses, so not many per se for nurses total.

Go to nursing school because that is something that you wish to do, but do not go because you think that it will get you to the US. Right now there is about a five year wait for a chance at a green card and that is for those that are already out of school, with not even having started, your chances of getting a visa will be even slimmer.

Statistics from last year showed 632,000 students in nursing in your country, and now it is up to 950,000. No jobs, passing rate of only 44% on the NLE from the better programs, and much less from the schools that should not even be open, some of them actually have not had one student pass the NLE. No place to get work experience and many other countries will not consider you without a local license as well as work experience.

I would do a thorough search before making any commitment about any school as to what your prospects will be when you actually get out. Your government is actually trying to slow down the second courser programs and they are adding a year to them as well, so it will be a three year progra, and not two, by the time that you are in training.

Re: Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

For various reasons, I am not updating the information in the list of schools. I would gladly discourage those who are planning in enrolling to a nursing school this June due to the fact that there are hundreds of thousands nursing graduates in our country. Please don't add to those statistics when your heart is not in nursing in the first place. Second, if your plan is to go out of the country especially in the US, it ain't happening for retrogession in is in place right now. Passing the NCLEX, the local board, IELTS and other exams is not an assurance that you can get out of the country. Third, you will master poor nursing skills molded by substandard nursing schools. It was decades ago that nursing in PI has a good reputation. Fourth, few local jobs are only offered, there is freeze hiring of the hospitals. See other multiple threads on RNs not having a job. If they do, it's probably a call center, medical or health representative jobs or others not related to nursing. Most end up unproductively bumming in their own home.

In my own point of view, if it's a calling for your to pursue nursing then go ahead. Follow your dreams. But please don't get carried by the insistent recommendation of your parents or relatives. You are old enough especially the second coursers to decide for yourself and determine what you really want.

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CHED orders addition of 2 new nursing subjects

In a bid to ensure the quality of future nurses, the Commission on Higher Education (CHED) has ordered the addition of two new subjects in the nursing curriculum that will focus on teaching freshmen nursing students the ethics and commitment involved in the profession.


The subjects – Theoretical Foundation in Nursing and Fundamentals of Nursing Practice – will be added to the Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) curriculum starting school year 2008-2009 as contained in CHED Order Number 5 series of 2008.

For full text, visit: http://www.philstar.com/archives.php...051064&type=2&


Now that the additional of subjects is official, tuition fees will increment on top of the every school year tuition fee increase of some schools.