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No. 60
Old May 30, 2009, 09:05 AM

Default Re: Say NO to LPN Progams in Philippines
https://www.ncsbn.org/1236.htm

Check out the stats on International PNs only a few hundred quality for the NCLEX and of those only 1/3 pass.

As far as a distance program, there are no LPN distance programs in the USA. Clinical hours have to recorded and sent to the Board of Nursing.

Why would the board approve of this process for foreign programs and not US programs.

Since you are in the US, PN programs are fairly easy to gain admission and usually lower cost. It is only 1 year full time or 2 years part time.
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No. 61
from Echo12
Old May 30, 2009, 11:26 AM

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In my opinion the Government and it's so called educational department CHED is trying to sugar coat the fact that Nurses are "NOT" so in demand anymore. They should not waste their precious time and our precious tax funds with this kinds of silly ideas. What they should do is to fix the present situation of Nurses which is "UNEMPLOYMENT". Since the demand for nurses abroad soared back in the '80s, a lot of "unproductive" Nursing Schools kept on sprouting rapidly. CHED should focus their attention on leveling these schools and stop their faulty advertisements that Nursing are still very "IN-DEMAND". Sure other countries are still hiring Nurses but with EXPERIENCE. Maybe if the present situation of Nursing here in our Country is finally regulated, maybe then Hospitals will start hiring "STAFF NURSES" with good compensation of course and stop their Exploitation-like-activities.
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No. 62
from Hushdawg
Old May 30, 2009, 10:21 PM

Default Re: Say NO to LPN Progams in Philippines
Originally Posted by Alexk49 View Post
https://www.ncsbn.org/1236.htm

Check out the stats on International PNs only a few hundred quality for the NCLEX and of those only 1/3 pass.
If you'll look at NCSBN reports and analysis there are many factors for that drop in passing, little of that has to do with the actual quality of education as most of those with poor education don't even make it past the local boards.

Factors that NCSBN cites are:
English as a non-native language
Time lapse from finishing education to taking NCLEX


Originally Posted by Alexk49 View Post
As far as a distance program, there are no LPN distance programs in the USA. Clinical hours have to recorded and sent to the Board of Nursing.

Why would the board approve of this process for foreign programs and not US programs.

Since you are in the US, PN programs are fairly easy to gain admission and usually lower cost. It is only 1 year full time or 2 years part time.
Excellent points.

Some states have even approved programs that condense the 1 year training into two semesters (in 3 semester systems) so that you can enter the program in May and graduate in December.

I don't see any point in telecommuting an LPN program from another country, seems like a waste of money and resources. Even if you could use the LPN degree you'd have to clear CGFNS requirements and that could cost more than the difference of just paying for a local US course!
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No. 63
from Echo12
Old May 31, 2009, 08:42 AM

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Precisely! And that would just give schools a reason to milk students fro bigger profits.
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No. 64
from rhenmag9
Old Jul 29, 2009, 12:39 PM

Thumbs up Re: Say NO to LPN Progams in Philippines
I agree..
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No. 65
Old Sep 12, 2009, 07:09 AM

Default Say Yes to LPN Programs
Someone on this thread earlier mentioned the St. Ingatius Program in Saipan. The program is a 2 year associates degree with its 5th semester in Saipan. Somehow the students who graduate receive a US ADN degree from the University of Loyola (CNMI) and are eligible to take the NCLEX. Recently one of the students passed the NCLEX and was featured in an article in the Saipan Tribune http://www.saipantribune.com/newssto...1&newsID=91997 The graduate was eligible to apply at the CHC hospital in Saipan where she interned for 3 months and could get a starting salary of 20K-25K per year plus 10k in housing benifits.

Also the Holy Cross school of practical nursing in Cagayan De Oro has students that have passed the NCLEX for California, and one student I know of working in California right now (she is married to a U.S. citizen).

And the LPN degree is in demand in the United States in geriatrics. Nursing homes are having trouble recruiting LPN's all across the U.S. And there are definitely states that will allow graduates to sit for the exam, and they can always endorse their license to another state.

The problem with a visa does exist for all jurisdictions with the exeption of Saipan (only U.S. territory that controls their own immigration until 11-28-09). Philippine LPN graduates that have passed the NCLEX could probably land a job in Saipan within a few weeks if they tried hard enough. As for California, ALL nurses will have a hard time getting any type of visa, at least until the U.S. economy improves.

So really the 2005 BSN graduate from the Philippines that took the NLE in November of 2005, got her results in February 2006, volunteered for 2 years and landed a contract in February 2008 is at least 3 years (With the expansion of U.S. Nursing Programs possibly longer) from a job in the U.S. So we are already at 2012.

The student from St. Ignatius College who started in 2007 is now able to land a job making 35k in Saipan. I wonder who made out better.
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No. 66
from LuckyM
Old Oct 23, 2009, 11:45 PM

Default Re: Say NO to LPN Progams in Philippines
ok im going to that school...
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