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I am curious. How does one from the Philippines get to write the NCLEX? I am ineligible to write because I do not have an American Social Security number (I am Canadian) and I took the program in Florida. Are there other States where a social number and residency is not a concern?

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Originally Posted by kayakgirl58

I am curious. How does one from the Philippines get to write the NCLEX? I am ineligible to write because I do not have an American Social Security number (I am Canadian) and I took the program in Florida. Are there other States where a social number and residency is not a concern?

I haven't heard of any states not allowing you to sit NCLEX as long as you meet requirements the issue is a license will not be issued if you do not have a SSN and that is what many states now require

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You don't have to have a social security number to take NCLEX, many states require it in order to release the license once you have passed NCLEX.

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Regarding the discussion over whether or not applications are hard.

I've heard this argument before many years ago when I was trying to decide whether or not to do my income taxes myself or go to a tax professional.

So many people claim that the forms are easy and straightforward and anyone with basic math skills can do them, yet millions use tax preparation professionals because they can't deal with the hassle.

Maybe licensure applications should be accepted in the same category.
After all, they are both lengthy sets of documents created to satisfy government officials.

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I'm learning a lot from you guys

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Originally Posted by Hushdawg

Regarding the discussion over whether or not applications are hard.

I've heard this argument before many years ago when I was trying to decide whether or not to do my income taxes myself or go to a tax professional.

So many people claim that the forms are easy and straightforward and anyone with basic math skills can do them, yet millions use tax preparation professionals because they can't deal with the hassle.

Maybe licensure applications should be accepted in the same category.
After all, they are both lengthy sets of documents created to satisfy government officials.

Anyone professional with a college education who can't file a 1040ez shouldn't be practicing as a nurse. Name, Address, Income, taxes paid etc. You can file over the telephone or go down to a IRS center for FREE help. You can download a FREE application that will submit your data.

Filing a complicated tax form where there is interpretation of tax laws is much different. It raises yourself to audit and time off to complete the audit is very different. US nurses don't use paid help to file an Li censure application. I have assisted hundreds of new nurses filing ( many English is a second language and not one had an issue with filing).

Who is going to assist these nurses when they are taking the NCLEX? What service is going to assist them filling out patient assessments?

I find the non nurses who post here often do not present the International Nurse is a very favorable light. Implying the International Nurses is not competent to fill out basic information with out assistance. Perhaps these nurses would do better without all the "support" they get.

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"Applying to a state "just to get in" is a very bad idea." -- I have to admit it is wrong, but not a bad idea. Thousands of Filipino nurses who are now in the US applied did this , except for those who were sponsored by the recruiting hospital, or agency. My own recruitment agency filed my application in New Mexico though they intended to send me to New Jersey.

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Originally Posted by Hushdawg

Regarding the discussion over whether or not applications are hard.

I've heard this argument before many years ago when I was trying to decide whether or not to do my income taxes myself or go to a tax professional.

So many people claim that the forms are easy and straightforward and anyone with basic math skills can do them, yet millions use tax preparation professionals because they can't deal with the hassle.

Maybe licensure applications should be accepted in the same category.
After all, they are both lengthy sets of documents created to satisfy government officials.

Tax forms are nowhere near being the same as state BON applications for NCLEX-RN. I mean, there's probably a hundred ways to file claims on your income tax returns but there's only one correct way to fill out an application to take the NCLEX for a foreign nurse. State to state rules vary but there's only one way to apply for the NCLEX for a specific state BON.

BTW, I had to go through a lawyer to file for my immigrant petition (because there's third party employment sponsorship involved) but I filed my own US citizenship application and my mom's petition for a green card, both went through without any glitches.

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Originally Posted by Hushdawg

Regarding the discussion over whether or not applications are hard.

I've heard this argument before many years ago when I was trying to decide whether or not to do my income taxes myself or go to a tax professional.

So many people claim that the forms are easy and straightforward and anyone with basic math skills can do them, yet millions use tax preparation professionals because they can't deal with the hassle.

Maybe licensure applications should be accepted in the same category.
After all, they are both lengthy sets of documents created to satisfy government officials.

Again, NCLEX application centers are for nurses who are too lazy to "deal w/ the hassle".
If they can't deal w/ the hassles of processign their licensure, then they ought not to get one.
If they made too mistakes filling up an application form, then they shouldn't filling up patient forms.
If they got confused following instructions, then they should be doing health teachings, and definitely no right to give instructions. And,
If they are too poor to do basic math, then they shouldn't be computing drugs.

I'm sorry hushdawg, but I believe you stayed too long in the Philippines to think like a local politician, i.e. quantity over quality

Just a thought, what makes you think filing an income tax is really difficult? It's just addition, subtraction, and multiplication. The people I know who needed 3rd party for this are those who wanted to cut corners and those who wanted to hide their real income

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Originally Posted by Alexk49

Anyone professional with a college education who can't file a 1040ez shouldn't be practicing as a nurse. Name, Address, Income, taxes paid etc. You can file over the telephone or go down to a IRS center for FREE help. You can download a FREE application that will submit your data.

Interesting. I'd like to take a poll to see how many nurses in the USA are using tax services.
Also, how many of them are still able to use a 1040ez instead of a standard 1040.

US nursing graduates don't use paid help to file licensure applications yet statistics show that they should, US nursing graduates make mistakes with about half same frequency as international nurses which means more than 15% are making mistakes which delay the application process.

Originally Posted by Alexk49

Who is going to assist these nurses when they are taking the NCLEX? What service is going to assist them filling out patient assessments?

None, of course the comprehension of clinical application of knowledge and the assesment/care of patients is within the scope of being a nurse.

Filling out documents better suited for clerical specialists is not.