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| No. 10 |
May 30, 2009, 08:53 PM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california
I dont know about TIN number. You need US SS number to be eligible in CA.
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May 31, 2009, 01:36 AM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I highly advice that you to go back to school and get your RN degree. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I suspect that this is also true in Southern California, the best acute care hospitals no longer hire LVNs (called LPNs in the rest of the USA). Many hospitals in California have or are switching to an all-RN inpatient staffing and I suspect that other states may follow California's lead once this current economic recession is over. The acute care hospitals traditionally pay the highest salaries for nurses ($45-$65/hr. in California's large urban areas). These acute care hospitals have realized that the LVNs, with all due respect to them, can no longer meet the demands of a patient population with high acuity, ever advancing medical technology and a litiguous society. If you doubt that hospitals here are no longer accepting LVNs for employment, just check the web sites of the best and biggest acute care hospitals in the SF Bay Area and you will find that many of these hospitals no longer hire LVNs. What LVNs that they have left in their employment were hired many years ago. In one large medical center that I know very well, (I retired from there last year) I've heard from reliable sources that some of the LVNs were reassigned as phlebotomists, or worse, as nursing assistants in another facility albeit still with LVN salaries. Some of the LVN positions may become redundant (read: laid off). I'm currently working part time in a private nursing agency and they too have stopped hiring LVNs. I recently learned about this policy when a friend of mine who is an LVN (she is finishing her RN schooling)wanted to work in the said agency. The RN supervisor in the agency told me to advice my LVN friend apply at the agency once she gets her RN license and a year of experience as an RN. I predict that sooner or later, the best acute care hospitals, medical centers, trauma centers, children's hospitals, etc in California and the rest of the U.S.A. for that matter, will have only all-RN inpatient staffing. Add to the fact that a practical nursing degree does not meet the requirements for U.S. immigration, therefore I highly advice the prospective foreign Practical Nurses to go back to school and get their RN degree, even if you are already here in the U.S. with a legal status. The number one beneficiary if you follow this unsolicited advice is none other than you. Good luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> | | No. 12 |
May 31, 2009, 02:36 AM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by Alexk49 Does the board know you used your ITIN number? If they think it is a social security number that could be an issue.
I applied to BVNPT and they knew that I am a foreigner thats why its impossible for me to have US SS number, they suggested to process itin instead. I found a very good accountant who processed my itin and the IRS gave me a temporary TIN. I passed it on to bvnpt and luckily they considered it.
| | No. 13 |
May 31, 2009, 02:45 AM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 You will more than likely find it hard to get a tourist visa to sit an exam that can now be sat in the Philippines
Currently I'm residing abroad and a permanent resident too, so Im planning to apply for a tourist US visa here not in the philippines. Just a thought of being rejected twice before (7 yrs ago) of getting a US visa made me so paranoid now hahaha. I just want to take my nclex in the states and visit my relatives there at the same time thats it.
| | No. 14 |
May 31, 2009, 07:40 AM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by dollar_rate I applied to BVNPT and they knew that I am a foreigner thats why its impossible for me to have US SS number, they suggested to process itin instead. I found a very good accountant who processed my itin and the IRS gave me a temporary TIN. I passed it on to bvnpt and luckily they considered it.
Most do not meet requirements for a ITIN number as most are not required to file a US tax return until they are in the US and earning a wage. You are only entitled to a US ITIN if you have to file a tax return and are not allowed to obtain a SSN
What is an ITIN?
An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. It is a nine-digit number that always begins with the number 9 and has a 7 or 8 in the fourth digit, example 9XX-7X-XXXX.
IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA).
ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have U.S. tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code.
Individuals must have a filing requirement and file a valid federal income tax return to receive an ITIN, unless they meet an exception. IRS ITIN | | No. 15 |
May 31, 2009, 09:15 AM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california
Dale City RN- you made excellent points, LPNS ( same as LVNs) have not been employed in my state since the 1990s. I think this poster is planning on working in a nursing home.
Silverdragon- if this poster has a green card, she is eligible for a SSN.
| | No. 16 |
May 31, 2009, 01:32 PM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by Alexk49
Silverdragon- if this poster has a green card, she is eligible for a SSN.
That is true but I was responding to dollar_rate
| | No. 17 |
May 31, 2009, 08:42 PM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 Most do not meet requirements for a ITIN number as most are not required to file a US tax return until they are in the US and earning a wage. You are only entitled to a US ITIN if you have to file a tax return and are not allowed to obtain a SSN
What is an ITIN?
An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. It is a nine-digit number that always begins with the number 9 and has a 7 or 8 in the fourth digit, example 9XX-7X-XXXX.
IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA).
ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have U.S. tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code.
Individuals must have a filing requirement and file a valid federal income tax return to receive an ITIN, unless they meet an exception. IRS ITIN
Actually when we first applied to IRS for an for ITIN , I was rejected. then my very good accountant made an appeal and sent to them the letter that was sent to me by bvnpt stating the I need to have an itin in order for me to take the exam. After many months of waiting, IRS sent me a letter with the temporary itin, i paid $75 for that, it was also stated that they will made it official once I get a work in the US and starting to pay taxes.
| | No. 18 |
May 31, 2009, 08:53 PM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by Daly City RN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I highly advice that you to go back to school and get your RN degree. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I suspect that this is also true in Southern California, the best acute care hospitals no longer hire LVNs (called LPNs in the rest of the USA). Many hospitals in California have or are switching to an all-RN inpatient staffing and I suspect that other states may follow California's lead once this current economic recession is over. The acute care hospitals traditionally pay the highest salaries for nurses ($45-$65/hr. in California's large urban areas). These acute care hospitals have realized that the LVNs, with all due respect to them, can no longer meet the demands of a patient population with high acuity, ever advancing medical technology and a litiguous society. If you doubt that hospitals here are no longer accepting LVNs for employment, just check the web sites of the best and biggest acute care hospitals in the SF Bay Area and you will find that many of these hospitals no longer hire LVNs. What LVNs that they have left in their employment were hired many years ago. In one large medical center that I know very well, (I retired from there last year) I've heard from reliable sources that some of the LVNs were reassigned as phlebotomists, or worse, as nursing assistants in another facility albeit still with LVN salaries. Some of the LVN positions may become redundant (read: laid off). I'm currently working part time in a private nursing agency and they too have stopped hiring LVNs. I recently learned about this policy when a friend of mine who is an LVN (she is finishing her RN schooling)wanted to work in the said agency. The RN supervisor in the agency told me to advice my LVN friend apply at the agency once she gets her RN license and a year of experience as an RN. I predict that sooner or later, the best acute care hospitals, medical centers, trauma centers, children's hospitals, etc in California and the rest of the U.S.A. for that matter, will have only all-RN inpatient staffing. Add to the fact that a practical nursing degree does not meet the requirements for U.S. immigration, therefore I highly advice the prospective foreign Practical Nurses to go back to school and get their RN degree, even if you are already here in the U.S. with a legal status. The number one beneficiary if you follow this unsolicited advice is none other than you. Good luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
Hi! thanks for the warning! I heard about this many years ago even before I started my LPN study. What I knew is, its hard for LPNs to take jobs in the hospital but how about in the nursing homes? I would also consider working in the nursing homes, its fine with me. Im planning to continue my study to RN or even to BSN once i get there, not in the philippines because the ladderized program from LPN to RN is not yet officially approved. If I continue to BSN, its taking forever... its a waste of time.
| | No. 19 |
Jun 01, 2009, 11:14 AM
Re: LPN grad eligible to take nclex in california Originally Posted by Daly City RN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I highly advice that you to go back to school and get your RN degree. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I suspect that this is also true in Southern California, the best acute care hospitals no longer hire LVNs (called LPNs in the rest of the USA). Many hospitals in California have or are switching to an all-RN inpatient staffing and I suspect that other states may follow California's lead once this current economic recession is over. The acute care hospitals traditionally pay the highest salaries for nurses ($45-$65/hr. in California's large urban areas). These acute care hospitals have realized that the LVNs, with all due respect to them, can no longer meet the demands of a patient population with high acuity, ever advancing medical technology and a litiguous society. If you doubt that hospitals here are no longer accepting LVNs for employment, just check the web sites of the best and biggest acute care hospitals in the SF Bay Area and you will find that many of these hospitals no longer hire LVNs. What LVNs that they have left in their employment were hired many years ago. In one large medical center that I know very well, (I retired from there last year) I've heard from reliable sources that some of the LVNs were reassigned as phlebotomists, or worse, as nursing assistants in another facility albeit still with LVN salaries. Some of the LVN positions may become redundant (read: laid off). I'm currently working part time in a private nursing agency and they too have stopped hiring LVNs. I recently learned about this policy when a friend of mine who is an LVN (she is finishing her RN schooling)wanted to work in the said agency. The RN supervisor in the agency told me to advice my LVN friend apply at the agency once she gets her RN license and a year of experience as an RN. I predict that sooner or later, the best acute care hospitals, medical centers, trauma centers, children's hospitals, etc in California and the rest of the U.S.A. for that matter, will have only all-RN inpatient staffing. Add to the fact that a practical nursing degree does not meet the requirements for U.S. immigration, therefore I highly advice the prospective foreign Practical Nurses to go back to school and get their RN degree, even if you are already here in the U.S. with a legal status. The number one beneficiary if you follow this unsolicited advice is none other than you. Good luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
Its funny how you post this you so called WARNING.. and there still lots of nursing school in CA offering LVN courses. So where do you think all this student go after they graduate? They should tell them your warning, to all this LVN school so they can shot down and stop accepting student to be an LVN since you said they wont hire them anymore...sound silly right??... This is been going on and on for so many years now and still LVN are being accepted for work all over the US...So get your thing right..Its not going to happen. When the Board said we will phase out LVN then maybe i will believe you...CA may not be using LVN , but not other US states..
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