Re: International Student Advisors 4U

Originally Posted by ennairam

Also, there was another agency who said that nurses who have passed their NCLEX and IELTS can take up this NVQ while waiting for their US visas and the retrogression to lift, but that is actually not allowable because they will be breaching their contract. They also said that you can have sideline jobs, but that is also illegal, right?
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Well done for asking the right questions, i am glad you got the information that you needed to make an informed decision.

As far as taking the NVQ whilst waiting for retrogression to lift, I suppose you could as it is on a student VISA rather than working VISA but as you have said the hours will not count for nursing experience which makes you less attractive to prospective employers and "sidelining jobs" hmm that sounds very dodgy, and I imagine illegal athough without knowing exactly what they mean by that would be difficult to say for sure. In the UK you would not be able to work as a nurse so I imagine the sideline job will be a minimum wage care giver.

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Really? There's a placement fee? how can i procure such amounts. anyway, anyone tried the Student visa like the ISA in Visacenter.org

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There is a address and phone number in Makati City

Iv tried to contact them but the phones numbers listed couldn't be reached.. THE NUMBERS ARE LITERALLY "NUMB" ERS. no response!
Check it for yourself.

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Good day!

I've heard just recently about ISA in the news papers & television news here in manila and It was really tempting to apply to them but now i've learned a lot from this forum , Im confuse if im still want to pursue applying for UK...If I work as a caregiver in UK I think its much better than to work as a nurse here in the philippines....but I need to think more...

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Maan, you really need to check out the thread about working and studying in the UK which is a sticky at the top of the forum, as a carer you will be earning minimum wage if that, the course that you are studying for is not going to allow you to work as a nurse in the UK and it will not count as nursing experience so at the end of the course when you have to return home you will have no current nursing experience to help you find a job. It is very expensive to live in the UK and you really will struggle to survive on what you will make.

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In my opinion, it would be better to gain a nursing experience here in the Philippines and then go to other countries that will surely issue work permits. I know it is hard to find a job here in the Philippines for I am also looking for one. And I have once considered going to UK as a student. But when I think of the fact that after 2 years I will still be going home to the Philippines with zero experience, I think it's not worth it. By the time you are done with the 2 year study in UK, there will be more nurses here in the Philippines which will make it harder for us to find a job to gain experience. Well it's just my opinion.

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I did try apply at ISA 4U last november 2008, but when I found out about the amount of money needed for the processing, I backed out! Firstly, because I can't produce such amount so I need to loan. But the problem is that I know I wouldn't be able to pay for it even after 2 years of working there because of the high cost of living. Secondly, it's not an assurance that I can apply for a poststudy visa and what more to get ONP and work permit there as a nurse. I guess it's not good for RNs/BSNs because this won't be counted as nurse experience.

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hello to all who participated in this forum!
i thank you all for the very informative opinions you've got here.
its only yesterday when i attended the free orientation of ISA. true, its very tempting to apply to their program especially for people who are unemployed and for those who really wanted to go abroad hoping to earn more. they've been clear to us that we cant work there as a nurse. we will go there as a student and at the same time, we will be working as carers. they also told us the only allowable working hours per week because they know that Filipinos love OTs. They've disclosed that it will be very expensive but they also got ways of helping those who cant afford. despite the big amount needed to be in their program, still, many of the attendees became interested and have signed, and im one of them even if there's a doubt, anyway, we are free to back out. honestly, im already thinking of getting started with the application process but after reading those negative posts, a humongous uncertainty came in.
after all, im still undecided... half cut!
please help me decide!
here are some reasons why half of me wants to apply to their program
- it is really my dream to go to London
- i think that the small amount that will be left in my salary (minus everything i need to pay) is still bigger than what i can get from hospitals here (to have something is better than to have nothing)
- personal experience
- new techniques
- new friends (if you manage to build good friendship with the foreigners, they may help you cope with the difficulties that you will encounter in the host country)

if possible, i want to hear from those who have applied in ISA and are now deployed in UK.

waaaaaaaah! it's so hard to decide!

anyway, thank you for all the information! i need to weigh things!!!!!

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If London is your destination then you really are going to struggle to live. The most expensive place in the UK . Also if you are on a student visa then there will be restrictions on how many hours you can work and if you are caught doing over them hours it is grounds to get visa cancelled and you have to leave the UK. What are you going to do once your student visa is up, they will not renew indefinitely?

They can promise all they want but immigration issue the visas and will have questions and if too many get abused and this is what I think the company is doing, then you are going to have problems getting the visa. The UK is gong through some very tough times at the moment and companies are closing that have been around decades which means more people in the workplace looking for other work.

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Originally Posted by suzanne4

The student visa will not permit them to stay when that contract is up. There is no way that they will be permitted to remain there and work in any capacity. The visa with this type of program is severely limited.

Next question would be why in the world would anyone with a four year BSN want to work as unskilled laborer and this is what they would be. They cannot do one thing that requires a license, or they are subject to immediate deportation, they will not have a license to do anything there at all. Makes absolutely no sense to me at all. And then one does not have current work experience as an RN either, so that will actually work against them later on. These programs can promise all that they want, but the fact remains that the UK government is not going to have visas as nurse for them later on, and without current experience as an RN, there would be no way for them to get a visa as an RN later on if visas would become available.

Only person that gets helped is the owner of the program that makes money from them; definitely not the care-giver.

You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

God Bless us all.. .