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Jan 08, 2009 10:21 PM

discrimination??

by pollen

IS it possible for a hospital who would only hire nurses that are graduates of their affiliated schools (for example cebu doctor's university hopitals..just an example!they only hire nurses who are CDU grads!)????I mean it's kind of discrimination for other nurses who graduated from other schools since there's only few hospitals here in cebu and the CDU management owns 5 hospitals and they will only accept their graduates....its frustrating but its their business.they dont make hospital bldg as hospital per se, business is business....so that many will enroll in their school coz of promising jobs in the future..

just wanted to ventilate my thoughts thats all..


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No. 1
Old Jan 10, 2009, 06:02 AM

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I think it's to ensure the nursing alumni of CDU that there is a place for them to seek work after they do graduate and pass the board exam.

Another thought...
maybe this will help encourage the increasing number of nursing schools or newly established nursing colleges of universities to set up their own hospital, or to AT LEAST secure hospital affiliates for their nursing students, which is in fact a requirement under CHED. With all due respect, it's disappointing that CHED seems to have failed to regulate the number of nursing schools, ensuring that they each have hospital affiliates. There are many nursing programs/nursing colleges that are not affiliated to ANY hospital. How on earth could their students accomplish the needed requirements for graduation? And these students are paying the schools. Talking about business, pollen... I think these schools without affiliates are making quite some money, but what does that leave the students whose parents are working and paying their butts off for their eduation? The nursing students:hospital ratio widening gap is drastic.

I think the real problem lies on the "mis"-regulated emerging of nursing schools WITH approved hospital affiliates.
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Old Jan 10, 2009, 01:02 PM

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If the hospital is privately funded and does not get any government money, and as long as the hospital does not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc, I think the hospital has the right to choose to hire only nurses who are graduates from its own school of nursing.

It makes nurses who graduated from other schools mad at the hospital, also the hospital is depriving itself of excellent nurses who are graduates from other schools of nursing, otherwise no one from the outside can dictate what the hospital administration wants to do as long as they comply with the laws and regulations regarding health care delivery.

How would I feel if I wanted a job there? Bummed up. Really, really ******.

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Old Jan 12, 2009, 12:46 AM

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if i am the hospital administrator i would prefer to hire those nurses from schools who have affiliations with us. there is no need to give the new nurses lengthy orientation because there are familiar with the hospital.
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No. 4
from pollen
Old Jan 13, 2009, 09:27 PM

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but they only hire nurses who come from CDU..which is why its frustrating since im not a graduate of their school..
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from suzanne4
Old Jan 14, 2009, 03:37 AM

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You see the same thing in the US as well. Especially for new grads. When there are limited new grad program, the offers are usually going to go first to students that rotated thru there for clinicals so they are already familiar with them and the nurse is familiar with how things are done there. It makes for a shorter orientation program as well as everyone is comfortable with everyone else.

And the same thing is done all over the world.
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No. 6
from blabber
Old Jan 15, 2009, 11:02 AM

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Can I just agree with pollen in saying that it is very unfair for applicants if hospitals give priority to their own grads or hospital affliates?

Although there are great advantages in hiring "your own" nurses, I believe that no matter how short an orientation will be or how familiar a nurse is in the hospital environment, it will always goes down to who is more qualified for the job.

Just my own point of view.
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No. 7
from suzanne4
Old Jan 15, 2009, 08:17 PM

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Sorry, but it is not unfair. And this happens in many other jobs and professions as well.
When one is selecting an employee for a limited number of openings, they are usually going to go with what is a known commodity to them; nothing more than that. The employers are already familiar with that person so it makes it easier to hire them.

And then take into account, that there are only a handful of openings and more than 500,000 that are unemployed as nurses in your country.

You will see the same thing being done in every other country and in most other professions, no matter if advertising, teaching, engineering, etc. If this is what you think is discrimination, then you really need to take the time to actually do some reading on what discrimination is. If you look at dictionary, there is no mention of the school that one attended.

Color of skin, gender, race, etc. are what is thought of when discussing discrimination; where you went to school is something that you can choose in the first place and is absolutely no basis for anything.

A large number of schools there are not meeting the standards as well, much has already been discussed on this forum concerning same.

But wishing to take on students that they are familiar with first, is most definitely not discrimination in any country of the world, including yours.
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No. 8
Old Jan 17, 2009, 12:45 PM

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I think it will save them time and money hiring nurses who graduated from their affiliated schools...
I think it goes the same in everywhere...
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No. 9
from himegimi
Old Jan 18, 2009, 07:10 AM

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I agree...It will save them money and time. Nurses they hire can work immediately for they have been to that hospital when they were students and they know the way around and the policies.
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