ADN Program at Montgomery County Community College

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    Hello, everyone!

    I have been an Army wife for a few years now, bouncing from duty station to duty station. Without thinking about the long-term consequences, I put my husband's military career before my schooling. For that reason, I went to three different schools during the last four years.

    At my first school, I was faced with my husband's first deployment. I was working, raising our daughter, going to school, and trying to keep our lives together with my husband fighting a war. It was hard. My freshman year at Drexel University was horrible. I left with a 1.59 GPA.

    After my husband came home, we received his first duty station in Fort Benning, GA. I attended a community college in Georgia for one semester. We expected to be there for a while, but it didn't work out that way. We stayed just four months. One week before finals, the Army moved us to Fort Riley, KS. I was taking four classes at the community college in Georgia at the time. Two of my professors let me take the final early. I got an A in both of those courses. The other two professors wanted me to wait until the rest of the class took the final to take it. I couldn't want. The Army was moving our household goods and I had to go. So, I never took the final. I got an F in both of those classes and left that school after one semester with a 1.85 GPA.

    After getting to our duty station at Fort Riley, KS, I started to go to another community college there. With working and my family, I took 28 credits as a part-time student. I got an A in every class and left there with a 4.0 GPA. I retook some classes that I failed at both Drexel and the community college in Georgia. Then, I took additional classes that would follow a pre-nursing curriculum, such as Anatomy and Physiology I and II, English 101, Sociology 101, etc. My accumulative GPA from the three schools that I attended is a 2.48. Horrible, I know.

    My husband is now retiring and we are going back home to Montgomery County, in Conshohocken. I am having such a difficult time trying to find either an ASN/ADN or BSN program that would accept me with such a frightening GPA. Our community college is Montco. I was on their website and if I am not mistaken, they accept people into their nursing program based on a point scale. If people have the same amount of points and there are still spots open, then they resort to your GPA. The student with the higher GPA has priority.

    I was on Montco's website and it said that for admission to the Fall of 2010 ADN Program, students who were accepted had a total of points varying from 58.75 to 84.75. I wish that it were more recent than three years, but it is better than nothing.

    Montco gives points based on three categories...
    1. If you took the course at Montco, itself, you get 0.25 points.
    2. If you completed the course on the first try and never had to retake it, then you get either 1 or 2 points. It is different for different courses/subjects.
    3. Then, you get points for your grades. This varies by course/subject too. For example, if you got an A in A & P I, then you get 8 points. If you got a B in Eng 101, then you get 3 points. Etc.

    If I were to try to get into Montco, I would need to take additional classes before applying to their nursing program. I need Nur 106, Bio 140, Core Goal 7, and Psy 136. Without having ANY of those courses complete and without getting any points for any of them, I already have 49.50 points. That leaves me only 9 points away from those who were accepted in 2010.

    With the four additional courses that I need to take, I can get a total of 3.75 points just for taking the courses at Montco and passing on the first try. Then, I would get even more points for getting an A, B, or C in each of those courses. For example, if I get an A in Bio 140, that adds 8 points to my score! I got very luck that GPA only plays a factor after this point system.

    However, I am not sure if the point-scale is still the same and if students between 58.75-84.75 points are still accepted. I know that that scale is three years old and things may have changed. So, does anyone have any updated information on Montco's point system and their nursing program, in general?

    Thank you for any feedback that you may provide!
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    Are you close to the Berks County border?

    If so, consider RACC. Great program!

    Good luck!
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    Hi! I know several people who went to MCCC for nursing and from the sounds of it, your points value is definitely competitive.

    Another school I would recommend looking into is Roxborough Memorial Hospital SON. I have a similar academic history to you (my first year of college ended in a 1.078 GPA) but after several years of working to bring my GPA up and a lot of explaining I was accepted into Roxborough's program. They are the only school in the area (as far as I know) who has you write an essay and interviews you to really get to know YOU as an individual, not just a number. They asked me to explain my poor grades and repeated classes and, ultimately, they were impressed with the progress I made.

    Good luck to you in whatever path you choose.
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    I know somebody who went to moncto...in the end she had a long wait to get into clinicals and had to take bullcrap classes to stay on the waitlist.

    RACC...heard a few years ago they were having "issues" but don't know more than that.

    Reading hospital had a diploma program and once accepted you are guaranteed placement for clinicals..linear program and you go through as a group.

    I would look at prerequisite classes you might be missing and take some at MONTCO to boost your GPA and try reading hospital.
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    Also look in to CCP in Philly. If you take a certain amount if classes with them, you qualify to apply as a CCP internal student and ONLY your CCP GPA counts. You have to take an easy reading comprehension and math exam and then get points for 0 withdrawals of Fs.
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    I recently just transferred out of Montco after realizing the time it would take me to complete all pre-reqs (would take me the same amount of time I could have a BSN.) Don't get my wrong, I do love Montco, however I have heard even though you have all points required, they demand a very high GPA. I've heard they really are looking for people with a 3.5 GPA and higher ( this is just what I've heard). Just like another person posted a lot of people get waitlisted. Good Luck!
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    Montco is still on the point system. I just finished all my pre-reqs in the Spring and I got accepted to the Fall class. I've already completed orientation and all my paperwork has been submitted so I'm excited. The point spread for the Fall class was 61.25 to 84.75. I was on the lower end with a 64.75 but that's because I got a C in A&P 2 and decided not to retake it. Yes, despite what everyone says, as long as you do well in your other classes, a C will not prevent you from getting in the program! I had only one C, all the rest of my classes were A's and B's. A&P 1 and BIO140 were B's. As long as you take BIO140, your Core 7 and PSY136, you should be eligible to petition. You can be enrolled in NUR106 while petitioning.

    If I remember correctly, there were 60 students accepted for the fall. An additional 10 were placed on the waiting list. During orientation, two of the waiting list students were bumped up into the class.
    I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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    Quote from Principessa22
    Hello, everyone!

    I have been an Army wife for a few years now, bouncing from duty station to duty station. Without thinking about the long-term consequences, I put my husband's military career before my schooling. For that reason, I went to three different schools during the last four years.

    At my first school, I was faced with my husband's first deployment. I was working, raising our daughter, going to school, and trying to keep our lives together with my husband fighting a war. It was hard. My freshman year at Drexel University was horrible. I left with a 1.59 GPA.

    After my husband came home, we received his first duty station in Fort Benning, GA. I attended a community college in Georgia for one semester. We expected to be there for a while, but it didn't work out that way. We stayed just four months. One week before finals, the Army moved us to Fort Riley, KS. I was taking four classes at the community college in Georgia at the time. Two of my professors let me take the final early. I got an A in both of those courses. The other two professors wanted me to wait until the rest of the class took the final to take it. I couldn't want. The Army was moving our household goods and I had to go. So, I never took the final. I got an F in both of those classes and left that school after one semester with a 1.85 GPA.

    After getting to our duty station at Fort Riley, KS, I started to go to another community college there. With working and my family, I took 28 credits as a part-time student. I got an A in every class and left there with a 4.0 GPA. I retook some classes that I failed at both Drexel and the community college in Georgia. Then, I took additional classes that would follow a pre-nursing curriculum, such as Anatomy and Physiology I and II, English 101, Sociology 101, etc. My accumulative GPA from the three schools that I attended is a 2.48. Horrible, I know.

    My husband is now retiring and we are going back home to Montgomery County, in Conshohocken. I am having such a difficult time trying to find either an ASN/ADN or BSN program that would accept me with such a frightening GPA. Our community college is Montco. I was on their website and if I am not mistaken, they accept people into their nursing program based on a point scale. If people have the same amount of points and there are still spots open, then they resort to your GPA. The student with the higher GPA has priority.

    I was on Montco's website and it said that for admission to the Fall of 2010 ADN Program, students who were accepted had a total of points varying from 58.75 to 84.75. I wish that it were more recent than three years, but it is better than nothing.

    Montco gives points based on three categories...
    1. If you took the course at Montco, itself, you get 0.25 points.
    2. If you completed the course on the first try and never had to retake it, then you get either 1 or 2 points. It is different for different courses/subjects.
    3. Then, you get points for your grades. This varies by course/subject too. For example, if you got an A in A & P I, then you get 8 points. If you got a B in Eng 101, then you get 3 points. Etc.

    If I were to try to get into Montco, I would need to take additional classes before applying to their nursing program. I need Nur 106, Bio 140, Core Goal 7, and Psy 136. Without having ANY of those courses complete and without getting any points for any of them, I already have 49.50 points. That leaves me only 9 points away from those who were accepted in 2010.

    With the four additional courses that I need to take, I can get a total of 3.75 points just for taking the courses at Montco and passing on the first try. Then, I would get even more points for getting an A, B, or C in each of those courses. For example, if I get an A in Bio 140, that adds 8 points to my score! I got very luck that GPA only plays a factor after this point system.

    However, I am not sure if the point-scale is still the same and if students between 58.75-84.75 points are still accepted. I know that that scale is three years old and things may have changed. So, does anyone have any updated information on Montco's point system and their nursing program, in general?

    Thank you for any feedback that you may provide!
    Have you looked into Gwynedd Mercy College? They offer a ASN and then you can complete the bsn portion. They seem to be very understanding about students with low GPA's. I would really look into them. You might even be able to get in for fall 2013 if the class hasn't filled up as they admit on a rolling admission. Good luck.


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