Do you think the CDC is biased? - page 3

I almost got myself embroiled in an argument over the possible risks of flu shot and pregnancy this afternoon. (Luckily I decided it wasn't worth the time and bowed out.) Anyway I was informed that the "CDC is biased and paid to... Read More

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    Quote from linearthinker
    However, the CDC is charged with the public health, and an individual's egg allergy or hx of adverse reactions is immaterial to them.
    I disagree. The CDC spends a great deal of time and resources monitoring the safety of vaccines and educating providers and the public on the contraindications and precautions to vaccination.
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    Quote from Tait
    "CDC is biased and paid to say that" when I attempted to actually reference my sources on Thimerosal.
    Biased? Maybe towards health promotion & disease prevention . Anyway, if you want some alternative resources on subjects like thimerosal (for those who don't see the CDC as legit), the Vaccine Education Center has some great educational handouts and information: Educational Materials | The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
    Also, I can't help but post this great documentary once more on the topic at hand: The Vaccine War | FRONTLINE | PBS
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    Quote from sbruc002
    Biased? Maybe towards health promotion & disease prevention . Anyway, if you want some alternative resources on subjects like thimerosal (for those who don't see the CDC as legit), the Vaccine Education Center has some great educational handouts and information: Educational Materials | The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
    Also, I can't help but post this great documentary once more on the topic at hand: The Vaccine War | FRONTLINE | PBS
    I think the Frontline episode on vaccines was very informative as I find most of their topics. I watched that when it first came out. People have the same doubts today.. I don't know what it will take for those who doubt vaccines to trust them..
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    Quote from xoemmylouox
    I think the Frontline episode on vaccines was very informative as I find most of their topics. I watched that when it first came out. People have the same doubts today.. I don't know what it will take for those who doubt vaccines to trust them..
    You can't fix stupid.

    Whether intelligently designed or designed by nature, the human species in blessed with an amazing amount of diversity. Along with the physical and genetic diversity is intellectual diversity. Although vaccines being undoubtedly beneficial, a species that does all of one thing runs the risk of a catastrophic event.

    Those of us who take vaccines will survive while others will not. However to appease our conspiratorial brethren, should the vaccines be contaminated by the FDA in conjunction with the IRS and Al Qaeda in an effort to control our brains so that the Illuminati can rule without question, we shall be proven wrong.
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    Quote from sbruc002
    I disagree. The CDC spends a great deal of time and resources monitoring the safety of vaccines and educating providers and the public on the contraindications and precautions to vaccination.
    I think the point was that they do not consider individual patient's contraindications when making public health recommendations.
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    Of course they're biased....as is any big organization trying to make money. Just like the AAP as well. There's HUGE amounts of money to be made, so of course they're going to say anything to make a buck. It's a perfect world when a big organization is truly concerned about the health of others, but unfortunately money is the root of all evil. :/
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    I think the point was that they do not consider individual patient's contraindications when making public health recommendations.
    I understood the point, & I agreed with majority of the statement except for that line. The word "immaterial" comes across like they have some sort of utilitarian rationale, whereby they readily accept that some will suffer for "the greater good". Individual contraindications are considered and incorporated into recommendations. The MMWRs and Vaccine Info Statements all clearly list for whom the vaccines are NOT recommended.
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    It can be argued that any source with humans behind it (ie pretty much everything) is biased.
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    Quote from CVmursenary
    but yes the CDC is biased. The pharmaceutical industry is very profitable and has a lot of influence on the CDC.
    totally agree with you. as most people don't know that the regulators/committee members in the cdc also have stock invested in big pharam and definetily have an interest in the hype and promotion of pushing vaccines and meds for profit. people need to do the research. they'll find some shocking info.
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    The flu vaccine--my issue is that it is often an absolute requirement of employment. Regardless if someone has an allergy to it or not. We wouldn't push medications that our patients are allergic to on them, however, it is all about "100% compliance", and little to do with the state of health of the community.

    However, childhood immuniztions are important. I have seen too many babies who are too young to receive the HIB vaccine being intubated for contracting HIB pneumonia--from unvaccinated children. Most pediatricians will work with any family to create a vaccination plan that is comfortable. And interestingly, decisions not to vaccinate children are usually made under the assumption that other parents do it, therefore, their kid is safe--and by fully vaccinated parents.

    Ideally, I get the notion that no one has the right in the free country we live in to tell us what and how to immunize. But, for most it means no job, or that your child can't attend school. AND there's even those few kids who, upon learning that they can't attend college unless they get shots, or travel to other countries/remote areas as planned, are a LOT less thrilled at the notion of then having to take the time to get a series of immunizations that should have been done when they were children/infants.


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