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Do you think the CDC is biased? - page 2

I almost got myself embroiled in an argument over the possible risks of flu shot and pregnancy this afternoon. (Luckily I decided it wasn't worth the time and bowed out.) Anyway I was informed that... Read More

  1. Visit  pedsrnjc profile page
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    Asystole, I agree with you totally that some people just need a conspiracy with everything, but it scares me that some people don't get vaccinated, because sometimes vaccines fail.
    With vaccines we also depend on herd immunity and if enough conspiracy people don't get vaccinated, then my kid might get polio because maybe my kid is in the 10%+/- that had a failed vaccination. It worries me, but by not getting vaccinated, people put others at risk. Of course, there are vaccines I wonder about like the cervical cancer one. Stuff like this could keep me up all night worrying. IDK
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  2. Visit  GreyGull profile page
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    Quote from SharonH, RN
    I thought that was political. I honestly chalked that up to poor leadership, not influence of big pharma.
    As I stated before there are several agencies involve such as the IOM and ACIP as well as the laboratories (such as in the Cutter situation) researching and manufacturing the vaccines. Contracts, deadlines, budget and political pressure are all involved. Also, if you remember in history, the by pharma companies wanted out of vaccine manufacture.

    Eli Lilly, Parke Davis, Wyeth Laboratories, Pitman-Moore and Cutter Laboratories all used to be big vaccine manufacturers. Then Aventis (PA) and Chiron in Liverpool, England were contracted for some of the more recent flu vaccines. Chiron had the manufacturing error which British regulatory authoritiesthen prohibited the sale of Chiron's vaccine creating a shortage during one of the flu vaccine. Thus, my argument is not so much about the big pharma companies as it is about the influence some situations (and Presidents) can have which can lead to lead then good judgement even when other advisory agencies are sending out warnings to the CDC.

    For this flu season these are the companies approved for sale in the US: Sanofi Pasteur, Novartis, GlaxoSmithKline, ID Biomedical Corp. (Quebec), CSL Biotherapies and MedImmune.
  3. Visit  moish profile page
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    Who do think is the biggest financier of the CDC, just look up cdc foundation. Or how come most top drug manufacturer guys hold top positions at cdc 1 year bofore or after their current job
  4. Visit  moish profile page
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    "scares me that some people don't get vaccinated, because sometimes vaccines fail."

    So why don't you just take a double dose

    Hep B, why are the giving it to babies , when it is usually only found in iv drug addicts & prostitutes
  5. Visit  canned_bread profile page
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    Currently, in Australia, the recommendation is that pregnant women get flu shots. One of the reasons is that part of the immunity flows on to the child/foetus, and thus if the child is born during winter this can be an advantage, and help them to not get the flu. The flu in a newborn is obviously a dangerous thing.
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  6. Visit  sauconyrunner profile page
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    Quote from moish
    "scares me that some people don't get vaccinated, because sometimes vaccines fail."

    So why don't you just take a double dose

    Hep B, why are the giving it to babies , when it is usually only found in iv drug addicts & prostitutes
    Children are less likely than adults to clear the infection. More than 95% of people who become infected as adults or older children will have a full recovery. However, this drops to 30% for younger children, and only 5% of newborns that acquire the infection from their mother at birth will clear the infection. This population then has a 40% lifetime risk of death from cirrhosis or hepatocellular carcinoma.
    This is why they vaccinate babies. Not such a bad reason or rationale.

    Vaccines do work. though I'll say I'm keen on the preservative free kind!
  7. Visit  PunkBenRN profile page
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    Do you guys hear yourselves? Why would the CDC be biased? If you are going to purport the pharmaceutical industry has that much power within the CDC, you need to back it up with some or any examples or sources. And if they do have that kind of power, they are doing a pretty sh*tty job considering the CDC has held back a lot.

    This is some wingbat conspiracy theory with no basis. CDC is not biased.
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  8. Visit  mariebailey profile page
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    Quote from linearthinker
    However, the CDC is charged with the public health, and an individual's egg allergy or hx of adverse reactions is immaterial to them.
    I disagree. The CDC spends a great deal of time and resources monitoring the safety of vaccines and educating providers and the public on the contraindications and precautions to vaccination.
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  9. Visit  mariebailey profile page
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    Quote from Tait
    "CDC is biased and paid to say that" when I attempted to actually reference my sources on Thimerosal.
    Biased? Maybe towards health promotion & disease prevention . Anyway, if you want some alternative resources on subjects like thimerosal (for those who don't see the CDC as legit), the Vaccine Education Center has some great educational handouts and information: Educational Materials | The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
    Also, I can't help but post this great documentary once more on the topic at hand: The Vaccine War | FRONTLINE | PBS
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  10. Visit  xoemmylouox profile page
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    Quote from sbruc002
    Biased? Maybe towards health promotion & disease prevention . Anyway, if you want some alternative resources on subjects like thimerosal (for those who don't see the CDC as legit), the Vaccine Education Center has some great educational handouts and information: Educational Materials | The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
    Also, I can't help but post this great documentary once more on the topic at hand: The Vaccine War | FRONTLINE | PBS
    I think the Frontline episode on vaccines was very informative as I find most of their topics. I watched that when it first came out. People have the same doubts today.. I don't know what it will take for those who doubt vaccines to trust them..
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  11. Visit  Asystole RN profile page
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    Quote from xoemmylouox
    I think the Frontline episode on vaccines was very informative as I find most of their topics. I watched that when it first came out. People have the same doubts today.. I don't know what it will take for those who doubt vaccines to trust them..
    You can't fix stupid.

    Whether intelligently designed or designed by nature, the human species in blessed with an amazing amount of diversity. Along with the physical and genetic diversity is intellectual diversity. Although vaccines being undoubtedly beneficial, a species that does all of one thing runs the risk of a catastrophic event.

    Those of us who take vaccines will survive while others will not. However to appease our conspiratorial brethren, should the vaccines be contaminated by the FDA in conjunction with the IRS and Al Qaeda in an effort to control our brains so that the Illuminati can rule without question, we shall be proven wrong.
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  12. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    Quote from sbruc002
    I disagree. The CDC spends a great deal of time and resources monitoring the safety of vaccines and educating providers and the public on the contraindications and precautions to vaccination.
    I think the point was that they do not consider individual patient's contraindications when making public health recommendations.
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  13. Visit  CrunchyMama profile page
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    Of course they're biased....as is any big organization trying to make money. Just like the AAP as well. There's HUGE amounts of money to be made, so of course they're going to say anything to make a buck. It's a perfect world when a big organization is truly concerned about the health of others, but unfortunately money is the root of all evil. :/
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