Do you think the CDC is biased? - page 2

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I almost got myself embroiled in an argument over the possible risks of flu shot and pregnancy this afternoon. (Luckily I decided it wasn't worth the time and bowed out.) Anyway I was informed that the "CDC is biased and paid to... Read More


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    Quote from GreyGull
    2003 Pres. Bush's smallpox vaccination fiasco.

    This project did not have the full support of the IOM and ACIP. And then there's the Cutter/Salk vaccine that is well documented in history. Those are the two the stick in my mind but there were others. A time frame pressure, budget and research sources can skew information and the delivery.

    Since there have been other muckups in the history of vaccinations, the CDC is not the only organization involved.

    I thought that was political. I honestly chalked that up to poor leadership, not influence of big pharma.
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    IMHO the CDC is not biased, but they are certainly not looking out for the people but for their pocketbooks.
    They are funded by the government who is lobbied by big pharm.
    Pharmaceutical companies want you to get their vaccines whether you need them or not, and the CDC is simply their mouth piece.
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    IMHO those that cry conspiracy are those that cry conspiracy with EVERYTHING. "Big pharma controls the CDC, 9-11 was an inside job, Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA, aliens are hidden in Nevada."

    Most likely there was a little too much of this To each his own is what I always say...let those brave enough get the flu/measles/whatever, all I know is myself and my family will not and thats all that I care about

    I have yet to see something the CDC states that I have not agreed with by just looking at the science/common sense.
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    Asystole, I agree with you totally that some people just need a conspiracy with everything, but it scares me that some people don't get vaccinated, because sometimes vaccines fail.
    With vaccines we also depend on herd immunity and if enough conspiracy people don't get vaccinated, then my kid might get polio because maybe my kid is in the 10%+/- that had a failed vaccination. It worries me, but by not getting vaccinated, people put others at risk. Of course, there are vaccines I wonder about like the cervical cancer one. Stuff like this could keep me up all night worrying. IDK
    SE_BSN_RN, TheSquire, and Tait like this.
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    Quote from SharonH, RN
    I thought that was political. I honestly chalked that up to poor leadership, not influence of big pharma.
    As I stated before there are several agencies involve such as the IOM and ACIP as well as the laboratories (such as in the Cutter situation) researching and manufacturing the vaccines. Contracts, deadlines, budget and political pressure are all involved. Also, if you remember in history, the by pharma companies wanted out of vaccine manufacture.

    Eli Lilly, Parke Davis, Wyeth Laboratories, Pitman-Moore and Cutter Laboratories all used to be big vaccine manufacturers. Then Aventis (PA) and Chiron in Liverpool, England were contracted for some of the more recent flu vaccines. Chiron had the manufacturing error which British regulatory authoritiesthen prohibited the sale of Chiron's vaccine creating a shortage during one of the flu vaccine. Thus, my argument is not so much about the big pharma companies as it is about the influence some situations (and Presidents) can have which can lead to lead then good judgement even when other advisory agencies are sending out warnings to the CDC.

    For this flu season these are the companies approved for sale in the US: Sanofi Pasteur, Novartis, GlaxoSmithKline, ID Biomedical Corp. (Quebec), CSL Biotherapies and MedImmune.
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    Who do think is the biggest financier of the CDC, just look up cdc foundation. Or how come most top drug manufacturer guys hold top positions at cdc 1 year bofore or after their current job
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    "scares me that some people don't get vaccinated, because sometimes vaccines fail."

    So why don't you just take a double dose

    Hep B, why are the giving it to babies , when it is usually only found in iv drug addicts & prostitutes
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    Currently, in Australia, the recommendation is that pregnant women get flu shots. One of the reasons is that part of the immunity flows on to the child/foetus, and thus if the child is born during winter this can be an advantage, and help them to not get the flu. The flu in a newborn is obviously a dangerous thing.
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    Quote from moish
    "scares me that some people don't get vaccinated, because sometimes vaccines fail."

    So why don't you just take a double dose

    Hep B, why are the giving it to babies , when it is usually only found in iv drug addicts & prostitutes
    Children are less likely than adults to clear the infection. More than 95% of people who become infected as adults or older children will have a full recovery. However, this drops to 30% for younger children, and only 5% of newborns that acquire the infection from their mother at birth will clear the infection. This population then has a 40% lifetime risk of death from cirrhosis or hepatocellular carcinoma.
    This is why they vaccinate babies. Not such a bad reason or rationale.

    Vaccines do work. though I'll say I'm keen on the preservative free kind!
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    Do you guys hear yourselves? Why would the CDC be biased? If you are going to purport the pharmaceutical industry has that much power within the CDC, you need to back it up with some or any examples or sources. And if they do have that kind of power, they are doing a pretty sh*tty job considering the CDC has held back a lot.

    This is some wingbat conspiracy theory with no basis. CDC is not biased.
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