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- Mar 20 by macawakeQuote from pmabrahamFor what age group is this years influenza vaccine 9% effective?Good day:
9% effective rate... can it be just a money game?
2012-13 Healthcare worker flu vaccine review: A concern for us all
How effective is it for the age group that the vast majority of healthcare providers belong in ? (hint: a whole lot better than 9%).
The fact that this years batch isn't as effective for people over 65 as one would wish is a strong reason for us who do work in healthcare to get the influenza vaccine so that we lower the risk of infecting our vulnerable patients.
Your source Natural News:
NaturalNews - RationalWiki
If you do embark on a nursing career you will be expected to practice evidence-based medicine. I believe that you need to be more critical about your sources.
pmabraham, please help me out here. I found this on You Tube. Is this man the founder of Natural News? Do you consider him credible?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0qCoWiIPUQLast edit by macawake on Mar 20 : Reason: added a question and a link
- Mar 20 by pmabrahamGood day:
As a fiscally conservative believer in a small government who sees is being done by the administration, I do find him to be more credible than President Obama.
When was the last time the flu vaccine worked in 100% of the population? Hmmm, if never at 100% then it's a gamble.
Follow the money; that usually gives you motivation.
- Mar 20 by Steve123It looks like 99+% of nurses need to educate themselves about corruption in Big Pharma. Big Pharma is routinely sued for not informing the public about all side effects of medications they aggressively market, even though they know about those side effects. Evidence based practice? Imagine we live in the 50's. I say something against lobotomy. What your respond would be? And now lobotomy is considered the black page of Western medicine history.
- Mar 24 by EmmaZ06Quote from Steve123You are comparing a flu shot to a lobotomy?It looks like 99+% of nurses need to educate themselves about corruption in Big Pharma. Big Pharma is routinely sued for not informing the public about all side effects of medications they aggressively market, even though they know about those side effects. Evidence based practice? Imagine we live in the 50's. I say something against lobotomy. What your respond would be? And now lobotomy is considered the black page of Western medicine history.
- Sep 21 by KaroSnowQueenEvery year, when i worked in a nursing home, we went down the halls passing out flu shots like Halloween candy. And every single year, at least one, usually two or three, occasionally more of the patients would get sick as a dog and die. The families would look bewildered, "But we gave Meemaw the flu shot, how did this happen??!??"
Now I may be blonde but I know what I saw. When my 84 year old grandmother was dying of emphysema she did not get the flu shot . Her doctors were horrified and tried to shame me into it. She never got the flu.
I never get the flu and I never take the shot. You can tell me that the flu shot is made with a dead germ all you want, I will not believe it. You may think Im a little on the nutty side but I do not believe everything I am told. I use my own experience to make my decision, and I am so glad my employer does not mandate flu shots.
- Sep 23 by Steve123Quote from EmmaZ06I am not comparing flu shot with lobotomy. I use lobotomy as an example that standards of practice and recommendations are always changing, so there is no reason at all to believe in all current standards of practice and recomendationsYou are comparing a flu shot to a lobotomy?
- Sep 23 by elkparkI get the flu shot (now) because my (current) employer really, really wants me to. I didn't get it for many years. I have no strong feelings about it one way or the other.
- Sep 29 by momRNmyI got my first flu vaccine in fall 2009, my first flu season as a nurse. This was the second flu season of concern for the swine flu, but my employer was only mandating (minus allergies or religious objections) employees receive the seasonal flu shot but offered the swine flu vaccine separately as a voluntary opt in/out. I was stubborn and decided that I didn't need or want a second shot, never mind the fact that I was working in an emergency department.
I never got the "seasonal" flu, but ended up sick as a dog by early January 2010. Imagine my surprise when I swabbed positive for the swine flu. My stubbornness got me nowhere besides stuck at home sick for 2 weeks and in the dog house with my manager....
For those out there who still convince themselves that a flu shot is ineffective, a conspiracy, or unnecessary because they never get the flu (based on nothing more than a past lack of the flu), I feel sorry for them and their patients. I went 29 years without "getting the flu", but 5 days after a patient coughed in my face literally as I was reaching for a face mask (whose rapid flu and days later swab tested positive for the swine flu), I was sick. I worked two 12 hour shifts during that 5 day period and passed the flu onto God only knows how many patients.
Mandatory or not, it makes no difference to me; based on science, my experience, and conscience, I'll be getting a flu shot (more if needed) for as long as I encounter other people as a nurse or otherwise.