So you think flu vaccinations donít work . . . . - page 4

by Laidback Al

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Ask the parents of the dozens of children who died from flu this year if they are sorry they didnít get their child vaccinated.... Read More


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    I would be much more interested in an article not funded by the influenza vaccine companies showing evidence based proof that the flu shot even does anything. It is always sad when children die, but to imply that giving them something that has not been proven to do anything (unless you have the requested article, and by all means, please post it for me) would have saved their lives is offensive to the parents of the children who died.

    Also, just because something (re: the flu shot) doesn't cause damage (supposedly... has this been proven?) doesn't mean you should just do it.

    EDIT: I'll add, it would be nice if the study was an RCT that actually proved something.
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    Quote from channtheman
    I would be much more interested in an article not funded by the influenza vaccine companies showing evidence based proof that the flu shot even does anything. It is always sad when children die, but to imply that giving them something that has not been proven to do anything (unless you have the requested article, and by all means, please post it for me) would have saved their lives is offensive to the parents of the children who died.

    Also, just because something (re: the flu shot) doesn't cause damage (supposedly... has this been proven?) doesn't mean you should just do it.

    EDIT: I'll add, it would be nice if the study was an RCT that actually proved something.
    Lancet Infect Dis. 2012 Jan;12(1):36-44. doi: 10.1016/S1473-3099(11)70295-X. Epub 2011 Oct 25.
    Efficacy and effectiveness of influenza vaccines: a systematic review and meta-analysis.

    Osterholm MT, Kelley NS, Sommer A, Belongia EA.
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    Shock vaccine study reveals influenza vaccines only prevent the flu in 1.5 out of 100 adults (not 60% as you've been told)

    What do you think of this article? It references the study you just linked, and apparently the flu shot isn't nearly as effective as we are led to believe.
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    Quote from channtheman
    Shock vaccine study reveals influenza vaccines only prevent the flu in 1.5 out of 100 adults (not 60% as you've been told)

    What do you think of this article? It references the study you just linked, and apparently the flu shot isn't nearly as effective as we are led to believe.
    It's a blog post.

    It makes some far fetched fictional "examples" written at a fourth grade reading level designed to scare individuals with a poor understanding of the data.
    Last edit by BostonFNP on Jul 24, '13
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    I would like to say that I am 19 and have never had a flu shot, nor the flu.
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    Quote from elektrisk564
    I would like to say that I am 19 and have never had a flu shot, nor the flu.
    19 year old presumably healthy individuals are not a high risk group for serious influenza infection. If you have contact with higher risk groups you place them at risk by not being vaccinated.
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    19 year old presumably healthy individuals are not a high risk group for serious influenza infection. If you have contact with higher risk groups you place them at risk by not being vaccinated.
    Thank you. Can you explain to me why I would be putting them at risk by not being vaccinated? I am guessing because bacteria that does not adversely affect me could be transferred to them, but their immune systems are not as strong. Is this correct?
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    Quote from elektrisk564

    Thank you. Can you explain to me why I would be putting them at risk by not being vaccinated? I am guessing because bacteria that does not adversely affect me could be transferred to them, but their immune systems are not as strong. Is this correct?
    Simplistically, yes. A mild illness for you could be fatal for an individual with decreased reserves.
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    It's a blog post.

    It makes some far fetched fictional "examples" written at a fourth grade reading level designed to scare individuals with a poor understanding of the data.

    I agree the fictional examples don't help his case, but what about his conclusions regarding the manipulation of stats to make it appear that the flu shot is more effective than it is? Or that this study has a conflict of interest with those who funded it?

    Also, does getting the flu shot mean a person cannot carry the flu virus on their clothes, hands, etc? How does getting the flu shot reduce transmitting the disease to other people you come in contact with?
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    I think what we should do is to inform the public regarding this vaccine thing for parents or society as well what this vaccine can do to prevent death of children or adults alike.


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