Hospitals illegally firing nurses for refusing flu vaccines - page 8

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    I'm new to this site, but here are my two cents...

    Follow the $$$. Who is really making out on this from a business perspective. Yes, we nurses really care about our pts. But owners, share holders, insurance companies, legal industry, etc. do healthcare for the PROFIT. The aforementioned have the ear of Congress via special interest groups. Congress is responsible for the legislation the health industry follows. Medicare holds the purse strings over everyone, paying wha
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    mariebailey --with all due respect, that comment was not called for.

    I think the people posting/reading this thread are NOT psychotic, paranoid or members of a radical group. I dont think anyone is wearing a tin foil hat. By the way-- I think you mean aluminum foil hat? They don't make "tin foil" anymore........

    I think people posting here have concerns and are voicing those over a free internet forum consisting of fellow professionals.
    Yes--we do get off topic sometimes--its an internet forum----!
    yes--some of us to feel like we have no say so in some of the decisions that others make that heavily influence our lives. Decisions that don't make any sense to us.

    The focus here is the mandatory flu vaccination. If you have been following developments concerning this mandate I think you will begin to see that the hospitals that have acted interdependently in making this mandate, are beginning to see that perhaps that wasn't the best thing to do.

    Just because others don't agree with your pro flu vaccination beliefs doesnt mean you have to become disrespectful.
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    Quote from olddragger
    mariebailey --with all due respect, that comment was not called for.

    I think the people posting/reading this thread are NOT psychotic, paranoid or members of a radical group. I dont think anyone is wearing a tin foil hat. By the way-- I think you mean aluminum foil hat? They don't make "tin foil" anymore........

    I think people posting here have concerns and are voicing those over a free internet forum consisting of fellow professionals.
    Yes--we do get off topic sometimes--its an internet forum----!
    yes--some of us to feel like we have no say so in some of the decisions that others make that heavily influence our lives. Decisions that don't make any sense to us.

    The focus here is the mandatory flu vaccination. If you have been following developments concerning this mandate I think you will begin to see that the hospitals that have acted interdependently in making this mandate, are beginning to see that perhaps that wasn't the best thing to do.

    Just because others don't agree with your pro flu vaccination beliefs doesnt mean you have to become disrespectful.
    You're right; I should not have posted that. I apologize.
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    Quote from olddragger
    mariebailey --with all due respect, that comment was not called for.

    I think the people posting/reading this thread are NOT psychotic, paranoid or members of a radical group. I dont think anyone is wearing a tin foil hat. By the way-- I think you mean aluminum foil hat? They don't make "tin foil" anymore........

    I think people posting here have concerns and are voicing those over a free internet forum consisting of fellow professionals.
    Yes--we do get off topic sometimes--its an internet forum----!
    yes--some of us to feel like we have no say so in some of the decisions that others make that heavily influence our lives. Decisions that don't make any sense to us.

    The focus here is the mandatory flu vaccination. If you have been following developments concerning this mandate I think you will begin to see that the hospitals that have acted interdependently in making this mandate, are beginning to see that perhaps that wasn't the best thing to do.

    Just because others don't agree with your pro flu vaccination beliefs doesnt mean you have to become disrespectful.

    What a wonderful response to such an immature grade school post. If I were to respond to her it most definitely wouldn't be a warm and cuddly read.
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    Thank you Mariebailey--apology accepted.

    Well, according to cdc's report the number of flu cases are greatly diminished. Thats a good thing.
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    I don't know. I thought it was kind of funny. Why not laugh now and then no matter what your belief or stance on the issue. Sometimes a little "lighten up" is appropriate.
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    If the hospital really cared about employees not infecting each other they would actually honor an employee calling in sick. I have worked at many hospitals across the US and with the exception of one (st. Joes in Tampa), if you called in sick you were treated as a liar and a malingerer.

    At St. Joes I was actually working a shift and I started getting a little hoarse with a sore throat and was sent home until it could be determined that I was not going to be febrile etc... but in 30 years and about 10 or more hospitals i have worked at, they are the only ones. My current hospital let the tele tech come in so sick she wore her scarf hat and mittens (she was chilling from her fever) and they just had the attitude that we were too short staffed to even bother trying to find a replacement for her.

    So they insist we get a flu shot, but then insist we come in sick - so what's the real agenda?
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    At the hospital I currently work at, you can refuse for personal and religious belief or if you are unable to tolerate the vaccine i.e. allergies to eggs. But, you have to wear a mask with any and all patient contact. I for one think itís ridiculous that so many people in this forum agree with the policy of getting terminated if you donít get the injections. They fired a 20+ year veteran nurse who called in sick 4 times in her career over that. In some institutors they tell nurses you canít smoke, itís ridiculous. Why are people so quick to agree with an agenda that violates your civil rights? This type of complacency is amazing to me.
    You donít even know what they are giving you and you go along and take because they say so. At what point do you think the federal government will cease this type of executive entrapment. You have the right to refuse healthcare, you have the right to refuse emergency care, you have the right to refuse medicine but if you say no to a vaccine, YOUR FIRED. That is 100 % insert dirty word here
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    So let's say I have a personal objection to washing my hands, I believe that if God's plan was for someone to get an infection from my unwashed hands, then I shouldn't interfere with God's plan. Should a hospital have no right to enforce mandatory hand washing?
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    not applicable--you would have never graduated from any Nursing school with those beliefs.

    But get real--what hospital really enforces proper hand washing!! They should, and at times they make a few minor efforts to do so--but they only advise that you should. Policies are written about it. But no one tracks you or constantly observes that staff wash their hands as they should. Matter of fact a nurse that has multiple patients --in reality--cannot wash their hands as theory dictate they should. Doctors, x ray techs, Physical therapists etc definitely do not.

    But I guess my main point with this comparison would be that washing your hands has been proven to work 100% of the time. The flu vaccine best percentage of effectiveness that I am aware off--please correct me if I am wrong---is only 62% agaisnt the 3 virus's it is designed to work agaisnt. That is like only washing one hand.
    If the flu vaccination was 100% effective then a mandate would make a lot more sense to me.


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