Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

Originally Posted by indigo girl

I think that they would have indicated that she had an underlying risk factor without saying what it was.

This is an unexplained death.

might it be possible that she was preg. very early, and not known herself ?
the fact that it seems to be hitting prg women especially hard makes me curious about if something in the virus so closely matches something in the human body that it is slipping thru the defenses?

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

Originally Posted by morte

might it be possible that she was preg. very early, and not known herself ?
the fact that it seems to be hitting prg women especially hard makes me curious about if something in the virus so closely matches something in the human body that it is slipping thru the defenses?

It is possible, but, I am thinking that they would have done an HCG to rule out pregnancy. It is a simple test, and done all the time in the ED.

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

Wow, that 8 year old boy became "seriously ill" on wednesday and was not hospitalized until friday!?! I wonder if swifter intervention could have saved him. I think I will be insisting that the kids that come to my office with flu-like s/s get to a doctor, especially when school starts this fall.

As for the woman with no underlying conditions...scary indeed. Come on with the vaccine! Although I wonder who will be in line to get it first. HCP? And if so, will I as school nurse be counted among them? So many unanswered questions, and I too am dreading the fall.

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Milwaukee teen is latest swine flu fatality in Wisconsin

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-090...,1839694.story

Originally Posted by www.fox6now.com

Fourteen-year-old Tiara Mosely-Forrest died two weeks after being rushed to Children's Hospital of Wisconsin, unable to breathe. But her uncle, Vernon Mosely, tells FOX 6 News Tiara went from being a healthy high school sophomore to the latest H1N1 Swine Flu Virus fatality.

The 14-year-old had a complete physical, blood tests and immunizations in May. The doctor told her the she was in good health.

Tiara first started complaining of chest pain in late May. The pain got so bad her brothers had to rush her home from the movies May 31. By late evening June 1, she could not walk on her own.

She spent the last two weeks of her life on a ventilator in the intensive care unit, where doctors eventually confirmed she had the H1N1 Swine Flu Virus.

Her mother says Tiara died June 15 from influenza, pneumonia in the lungs, a staph infection and multiple organ failure.

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

http://www.jsonline.com/features/health/48294837.html

This is tough to read, but this is how it is. It is painful to hear these stories, but it also makes it real for us. This is what has been happening in Mexico/Indonesia and Egypt. But, it's also happening in Salt Lake City, NYC, and Milwaukee...

I wonder, did they give her Tamiflu when she went to the hospital the first time?

I would like to see all of our young people get the pneumovax. I would like for all of us who will be caring for these patients to do this also.

Originally Posted by www.jsonline.com

... "she just lay in the hallway," said her mother, Edwina Mosely-Forrest. "I noticed that her fingertips were cold. They'd turned gray."

Mosely-Forrest offered to drive her to the hospital.

"No, Mom," the girl said. "Just call 911."

After returning to Children's Hospital by ambulance on June 1, Tiara Mosely never left, and on Monday night, after a two-week struggle, she died, the third Wisconsin resident to succumb to swine flu.

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Health officials can't explain SD swine flu death

http://www.modbee.com/state/story/748868.html

Originally Posted by www.modbee.com

SAN DIEGO -- San Diego County health officials are investigating the swine flu death of a 20-year-old Escondido woman, trying to determine why the virus quickly became fatal to a seemingly healthy person.

Palomar Medical Center director Dr. Don Herip said Wednesday that the woman, identified by the coroner's office as Adela Chevalier, began experiencing mild flu symptoms on Friday, including a cough and fatigue. He says by Monday she was running a high fever, having trouble breathing and suffering severe muscle aches. She died at the hospital's emergency room later that night.

County health officials say tests also were being conducted Wednesday night on a specimen taken from a young man who died recently. They suspect he also was infected with swine flu.

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

The swine flu death we had at our hospital was a man in his early 40's, no pre-existing conditions, heath nut who went into multi-system organ failure and died two weeks after being hospitalized. His lungs were so full of fluid that he was on a special bed that rotated him constantly in an attempt to help ventilation. They coded him over and over again, and each time he came back he was a little worse off, until they just coudn't bring him back. RT said that they went through four code carts on him that last night.

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

Originally Posted by mama_d

The swine flu death we had at our hospital was a man in his early 40's, no pre-existing conditions, heath nut who went into multi-system organ failure and died two weeks after being hospitalized. His lungs were so full of fluid that he was on a special bed that rotated him constantly in an attempt to help ventilation. They coded him over and over again, and each time he came back he was a little worse off, until they just coudn't bring him back. RT said that they went through four code carts on him that last night.

Don't want to raise any privacy issues here, but I have two questions for you if you would:

What is your location? And, would you happen to know if the cause of death was considered to be swine flu?


I suspect the number of deaths from swine flu has been masked by dx of pneumonia or ARDS or whatever so that we are not getting a true picture of the number of deaths in which influenza is the real cause.

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

Indigo girl, do you know if there have been any deaths in patients who were given Tamiflu?

I am working summer school and still seeing febrile, flu-like illnesses on an almost daily basis. IMO my community is taking this way too lightly. These kids that I send home are not being seen by an MD, the parents just wait it out. I am really REALLY dreading this fall.

Re: No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

Originally Posted by Purple_Scrubs

Indigo girl, do you know if there have been any deaths in patients who were given Tamiflu?

I am working summer school and still seeing febrile, flu-like illnesses on an almost daily basis. IMO my community is taking this way too lightly. These kids that I send home are not being seen by an MD, the parents just wait it out. I am really REALLY dreading this fall.

Certainly, there has to have been because people have died in the ICU from this. If they know that they are treating influenza, then they are giving Tamiflu. The real question to ask is, at what point was Tamiflu tx started. We know that it is most effective in the first 48 hours of tx. But you cannot always save every person despite giving Tamiflu if their lungs are too damaged.

We are not hearing about Tamiflu resistance yet if that is what you are concerned about.

We are reading about people sent home from the ER after being treated with tylenol only to die a few days later. No tamiflu for them because they did not look sick enough when first seen. Can you imagine the lawsuits when this is all over?

It is now obvious also that certain information is being censored. We all know that information about cases can be given without violating privacy. But, what we are seeing in some places, Utah comes to mind, is that officials are choosing not to divulge disturbing facts regarding severe cases.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12623865

This is a very unsettling trend, and is not unlike the censorship that we are seeing in Indonesia where we must depend on grieving family members talking to the media to know that someone who was previously healthy has died from influenza. Only this is not Indonesia. This is here in our own country, and we pay the salaries of the public health officials that are deciding what, or what not to tell us about recent deaths.

Utah's reason for doing this? They don't want people to become complacent. How could anyone be complacent about previously healthy kids and young adults dying so suddenly?

If they don't tell you pre-existing health conditions then you will have no idea how many will have died that had none.