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Nov 06, 2009 03:56 AM

Can You Get Swine Flu More Than Once?

by indigo girl allnurses Guide
Updated Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM by indigo girl

http://dailymail.com/News/200911041062

I have been hearing anecdotal information about this happening for months now but these are the first positive test confirmations that I have seen confirming that this is indeed possible.

Originally Posted by dailymail.com

Dr. Debra Parsons, a pediatrician at Kid Care West in Cross Lanes, said both she and her son came down with identical flu-like symptoms in August.

... a more specific follow-up "sub-typing" test at the state lab confirmed she had H1N1.

Parsons and her son recovered from the symptoms but in October they struck again and were much worse, she said. Both had body aches, fever, chills, wheezing, and shortness of breath.

This time Parsons swabbed both herself and her son, and both tests came back positive for Influenza A. She said she pushed for further testing to determine the strain, and the lab ran an immunofluorescence test on the specimens. They again tested positive for H1N1, she said.

Parsons' second swab was sent to the state lab Wednesday for even further testing and results should be returned in a couple of days or sent to the Centers for Disease Control for follow-up tests, she said.

When the initial test came back positive again, Parsons said she also contacted the CDC to see if it's possible for someone to contact the swine flu twice.

She said officials at the CDC told her Saturday that it is possible.
(hat tip pfi/clawdia)


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Old Nov 06, 2009, 08:50 AM
Updated Nov 06, 2009 at 08:51 AM by Purple_Scrubs

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Fantastic. So, will the vaccine even help, I wonder? If there are sub-types or even the slightest mutation, we might be right back to square one.

Immunity is such a mystery. I know for a fact I have been exposed on several occasions, yet I have not come down with anything more severe than a slight sore throat and congestion (which is par for the course for me this time of year anyway, chronic post nasal drip and allergies). I continue to be amazed that I have not become ill. Maybe they need to study my blood for antibodies, LOL!
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Old Nov 06, 2009, 03:34 PM

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I'm trying to wrap my mind around getting the virus more than once without any kind if viral mutation or shift.
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Old Nov 06, 2009, 03:51 PM

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We have been hearing several reports from people in Mexico in particular saying that they thought they were infected again, but they had not been tested so no one new for sure. Dr. Niman over at Recombinomics had this to say back on 10 October. I never posted it because there was no other confirmation, but I remembered it because it made some sense and was interesting. I am only posting a few paragraphs.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/10...ion_Titer.html

Originally Posted by www.recombinomics.com
The recently released data on the clinical trial in Australia suggests that such re-infections may be linked to low titers generated during mild infections. Although prior pandemic H1N1 infections were among exclusion criteria, 31% of enrollees had titers of 40 or more at baseline. Since there is little cross reactivity between contemporary seasonal H1N1 and pandemic swine H1N1, the baseline titers are almost certainly due to pandemic H1N1 infections that were not disclosed or not know the enrollee. Since many who are infected experience mild disease, including infections without fever, it is likely that many or most of these enrollees had mild infections.

Figure two suggests that although these enrollees had prior antibodies, the titers were relatively low (the vast majority were between 40 and 160) and most had significant improvements (increases of 4 fold or more) after a single injection, suggesting the weak responses to earlier natural infections would provide limited immunological protection, which would support common re-infections.

These data would also explain the limited level of drift, because naïve hosts as well as those with prior mild infections would be susceptible to re-infections, which would limit the selective pressure offered by genetic drift. Indeed, in recent CDC weekly updates, only one isolate has shown reduced titers to the pandemic vaccine target. However, this recently identified isolate may signal the start or accelerated drift as more of the target population develop higher antibody levels.
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Old Nov 06, 2009, 03:56 PM

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or it was surpressed, not over come, and was allowed to come forth again....
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