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Jun 19, 2009 04:03 PM

Does anyone here have fibromyalgia?

by Franemtnurse Platinum Member

I have it and would like to know what causes it. So far I only know it's a neurological disease that attacks muscle fibers.


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from caliotter3
Old Jun 20, 2009, 07:50 AM

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I believe that I have it and it is undiagnosed. I thought the cause was unknown.
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Old Jun 21, 2009, 04:16 PM

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I just wish I knew what causes it. I have had it for several years. My skin hurts to the touch all the time, Demeral now increases my pain, I'm unable to take most narcotics, etc. It is miserable. I have even tried strong antidepressants, and they don't help very much. They just keep the severe pain at bay so I only have occasional episodes of the severe pain from head to toe. The only narcotic I havn't tried is Percocet, and Roxinal does help, but the generic kind increases my substernal chest pain. UGH!!!!
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from caliotter3
Old Jun 21, 2009, 04:24 PM

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Wow, sounds like you're in bad shape. I'm not that bad yet, although everything is increasing, to include whatever type of arthritis I have. I also get chest pains that might be the beginnings of angina. Have actually gone to the ER to be told that nothing can be found. I just don't like the overall, daily, achy and painy feeling. Whoever said we have to put up with all of this just because we are getting old, has it wrong.
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Old Jun 21, 2009, 05:05 PM

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I'm with you my dear. Hopefully, you won't get as bad as I am. I hated the feeling I got when the ahem, professionals said there was nothing wrong. I knew they thought it was all in my head. Well it really is though, just not the way they referred. It's a neurological ailment that never goes away once you get it.
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from caliotter3
Old Jun 21, 2009, 05:11 PM

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I report symptoms to my doctor, whoever it is at the time, and usually get the "well, I can't find anything wrong with you" answer all the time. Because of that I only go to the doctor to get employment physicals done if I can help it. I don't need to waste my time or money to get told nothing. Good luck with getting some kind of treatment that works for this malady.
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from Heogog53
Old Jun 21, 2009, 06:17 PM

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I do. As to the cause, current agreement among specialtists is the follow- taken from the Dr Allan Spanos website;

At present, most experts believe that FM is essentially a disorder of the nervous system in which pain is amplified, so that previously-painless sensations now hurt. So it is a "pain amplification disorder," which is one kind of "afferent processing disorder." These terms are well known to pain researchers, but sadly, the great majority of practicing doctors have never heard of them. Too often, they assume that in pain amplification states, the patient is consciously exaggerating the pain. But in fact, these are disorders in which the pain signals are turned up before they ever reach consciousness.
This kind of "pain amplification" can be so severe that there can be pain even without any outside stimulus at all: "spontaneous pain." If such a disorder affects mainly pain from muscles, then it is the muscles that hurt, and the sufferer’s ability to move and exercise will be limited because such activities will hurt, even though they shouldn’t. If the condition affects pain from the skin, then even pressure from a firm chair, or from heavy clothing, may be genuinely painful. And if it affects pain from the stomach and intestines, there may be cramping in the abdomen, and discomfort after eating. If it affects the bladder, then the sufferer may feel she has a full bladder and have to make numerous trips to the bathroom. With each of these problems, lab tests and x-rays are negative, because none of them detects "pain amplification." Sometimes, the result of this is that patients get treated for a while for some other condition, but then when tests keep coming back negative, the doctor concludes there’s no problem after all and "it’s all in your mind."
This kind of mistake happens because doctors were not taught about pain amplification during their training. Pain amplification is a process that takes place within the nervous system (the nerves, spinal cord and brain). It involves chemical changes, and also disturbances in the electrical circuits that transmit information about pain and other feelings around the brain and the body. Since the brain is the organ of the mind, pain amplification is also profoundly affected by mental and emotional factors.
It seems that the parts of the brain that control pain sensitivity also control sleep, energy, mental acuity, and mood. So a pain amplification disorder can be accompanied by disorders in these four areas as well. Hence in FM, most sufferers complain that they never feel properly refreshed after sleep. They also usually report that activities that didn’t previously make them tired, now make them thoroughly exhausted, sometimes so much so that they have to take a day or two in bed to recuperate. Sometimes they feel they can’t think properly, or remember well. And they often notice that they are not as emotionally stable as in the past.
The cause of FM is unknown. It is much more common in adult women, but some cases occur at all ages and in both sexes. Sometimes fibromyalgia seems to develop by a spreading-out of pain from a single injured area – perhaps out of neck pain after an auto accident, or low back pain after a strain at work. Sometimes it represents a complication of another illness such as arthritis. Sometimes it follows a viral illness like flu. And often, it just comes on very gradually with no obvious cause. Sometimes it clearly runs in families. So probably there are several different factors, any of which can contribute to the phenomenon of pain amplification (of which fibromyalgia is the commonest type). Once the pain amplification is happening, then a number of other factors may conspire to keep it going: these include sleep loss, emotional stress, overwork, and any physical injuries.
There is at present no known cure for fibromyalgia. Treatment can therefore only aim at reducing its symptoms. These include pain, poor sleep, difficulties with concentration and memory, and exhaustion. Depression is common in FM, as in any condition causing chronic pain, so this often also has to be treated. But this does not mean that fibromyalgia is just a manifestation of depression: people with both deserve to have each condition addressed and dealt with on its own merits.
Symptomatic treatments for FM are notoriously variable in their effects: something that helps one person considerably may be useless for another. Various treatments from medications, to nutritional supplements, to acupuncture, to psychotherapy, and others, help some people with fibromyalgia. Probably the only thing that helps everyone is exercise: too much or too little makes the condition worse, but just the right amount seems to benefit anyone with fibromyalgia.
In our experience, most people with fibromyalgia can get at least some worthwhile improvement with straightforward, well-known remedies, and a few people can get very much better indeed. The challenge is to try a number of treatments as quickly and critically as possible, so as to find out for sure what helps and what doesn’t. Treatments such as medications, or massage, or acupuncture, don’t need to be persisted in for week after week: if they work, they work very quickly and can usually be assessed in only a few days.
Many web sites deal with fibromyalgia. Unfortunately, some of these are ill-informed, and many are simply advertisements disguised as medical information. Two reputable sources that are reliable, and which we strongly recommend, are the Fibromyalgia Network at www.fmnetnews.com, and the Oregon Fibromyalgia Foundation at www.myalgia.com. The Fibromyalgia Network also puts out a number of extremely useful publications, including a newsletter that is the most useful thing we know for keeping up to date with what helps people with FM.
As for books, there are now a number on the market dealing with fibromyalgia. Like the web sites, they vary from wonderfully-helpful to just-plain-silly, so beware. A good starting-place for most people is Dan Goldenberg’s book entitled simply "Fibromyalgia" which has several advantages. It is written by a nationally-respected researcher in the field; the author also has a family member with fibromyalgia so he knows his subject from a personal as well as a professional standpoint; and it has good references, for those who want to study the research for themselves. Another excellent book is “All About Fibromyalgia” by Daniel and Janice Wallace. Starting with a book like this is the best way to arm yourself against being taken in by the "just plain silly" variety.






I hope that helps. Another excellent Doc is Dr Charles Lapp, an internationally renowned FM/CFIDS doc, in Charlotte, NC.
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I do. As to the cause, current agreement among specialtists is the follow- taken from the Dr Allan Spanos website;

At present, most experts believe that FM is essentially a disorder of the nervous system in which pain is amplified, so that previously-painless sensations now hurt. So it is a "pain amplification disorder," which is one kind of "afferent processing disorder." These terms are well known to pain researchers, but sadly, the great majority of practicing doctors have never heard of them. Too often, they assume that in pain amplification states, the patient is consciously exaggerating the pain. But in fact, these are disorders in which the pain signals are turned up before they ever reach consciousness.
This kind of "pain amplification" can be so severe that there can be pain even without any outside stimulus at all: "spontaneous pain." If such a disorder affects mainly pain from muscles, then it is the muscles that hurt, and the sufferer’s ability to move and exercise will be limited because such activities will hurt, even though they shouldn’t. If the condition affects pain from the skin, then even pressure from a firm chair, or from heavy clothing, may be genuinely painful. And if it affects pain from the stomach and intestines, there may be cramping in the abdomen, and discomfort after eating. If it affects the bladder, then the sufferer may feel she has a full bladder and have to make numerous trips to the bathroom. With each of these problems, lab tests and x-rays are negative, because none of them detects "pain amplification." Sometimes, the result of this is that patients get treated for a while for some other condition, but then when tests keep coming back negative, the doctor concludes there’s no problem after all and "it’s all in your mind."
This kind of mistake happens because doctors were not taught about pain amplification during their training. Pain amplification is a process that takes place within the nervous system (the nerves, spinal cord and brain). It involves chemical changes, and also disturbances in the electrical circuits that transmit information about pain and other feelings around the brain and the body. Since the brain is the organ of the mind, pain amplification is also profoundly affected by mental and emotional factors.
It seems that the parts of the brain that control pain sensitivity also control sleep, energy, mental acuity, and mood. So a pain amplification disorder can be accompanied by disorders in these four areas as well. Hence in FM, most sufferers complain that they never feel properly refreshed after sleep. They also usually report that activities that didn’t previously make them tired, now make them thoroughly exhausted, sometimes so much so that they have to take a day or two in bed to recuperate. Sometimes they feel they can’t think properly, or remember well. And they often notice that they are not as emotionally stable as in the past.
The cause of FM is unknown. It is much more common in adult women, but some cases occur at all ages and in both sexes. Sometimes fibromyalgia seems to develop by a spreading-out of pain from a single injured area – perhaps out of neck pain after an auto accident, or low back pain after a strain at work. Sometimes it represents a complication of another illness such as arthritis. Sometimes it follows a viral illness like flu. And often, it just comes on very gradually with no obvious cause. Sometimes it clearly runs in families. So probably there are several different factors, any of which can contribute to the phenomenon of pain amplification (of which fibromyalgia is the commonest type). Once the pain amplification is happening, then a number of other factors may conspire to keep it going: these include sleep loss, emotional stress, overwork, and any physical injuries.
There is at present no known cure for fibromyalgia. Treatment can therefore only aim at reducing its symptoms. These include pain, poor sleep, difficulties with concentration and memory, and exhaustion. Depression is common in FM, as in any condition causing chronic pain, so this often also has to be treated. But this does not mean that fibromyalgia is just a manifestation of depression: people with both deserve to have each condition addressed and dealt with on its own merits.
Symptomatic treatments for FM are notoriously variable in their effects: something that helps one person considerably may be useless for another. Various treatments from medications, to nutritional supplements, to acupuncture, to psychotherapy, and others, help some people with fibromyalgia. Probably the only thing that helps everyone is exercise: too much or too little makes the condition worse, but just the right amount seems to benefit anyone with fibromyalgia.
In our experience, most people with fibromyalgia can get at least some worthwhile improvement with straightforward, well-known remedies, and a few people can get very much better indeed. The challenge is to try a number of treatments as quickly and critically as possible, so as to find out for sure what helps and what doesn’t. Treatments such as medications, or massage, or acupuncture, don’t need to be persisted in for week after week: if they work, they work very quickly and can usually be assessed in only a few days.
Many web sites deal with fibromyalgia. Unfortunately, some of these are ill-informed, and many are simply advertisements disguised as medical information. Two reputable sources that are reliable, and which we strongly recommend, are the Fibromyalgia Network at www.fmnetnews.com, and the Oregon Fibromyalgia Foundation at www.myalgia.com. The Fibromyalgia Network also puts out a number of extremely useful publications, including a newsletter that is the most useful thing we know for keeping up to date with what helps people with FM.
As for books, there are now a number on the market dealing with fibromyalgia. Like the web sites, they vary from wonderfully-helpful to just-plain-silly, so beware. A good starting-place for most people is Dan Goldenberg’s book entitled simply "Fibromyalgia" which has several advantages. It is written by a nationally-respected researcher in the field; the author also has a family member with fibromyalgia so he knows his subject from a personal as well as a professional standpoint; and it has good references, for those who want to study the research for themselves. Another excellent book is “All About Fibromyalgia” by Daniel and Janice Wallace. Starting with a book like this is the best way to arm yourself against being taken in by the "just plain silly" variety.






I hope that helps. Another excellent Doc is Dr Charles Lapp, an internationally renowned FM/CFIDS doc, in Charlotte, NC.
Thank you for this info. I believe mine began right after taking niacin to treat hypercholesterolemia after graduating nursing school. I had to support myself, and knew I needed to be in good health. I bought some niacin which was only half the dosage of what my drug guide suggested, but it gave me an anaphylactoid reaction anyway. It was after that happened that I began noticing sensitivity to a lot of narcotics.
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