California nurses and medical marijuana - page 4

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We had an interesting topic in discussion today about how the State Board Of Nursing is pro medical marijuana. For many people suffering from chronic pain it's a great alternative to narcotics - which in my opinion hold a much... Read More


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    Hopefully the boards would consider it as any other narcotic use and if a person had a script would accept it. My state is ultra conservative who know how they would react. I do know smoking pot makes you spacey, though people deny it, its true. So how does that effect job performance. On the other hand I would assume like any narcotic use a person builds up a certain amount of resistance to drugs over time. The other thing is medicinal use of marijuana for cancer patients helps the appetite, decreases nausea and creates a needed euphoria, so if a nurse has these symptoms such as manifested in cancer, why do they not have the right to treatment with the same drugs, without loosing their license.
    leslie :-D likes this.
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    It never ceases to amaze me different peoples attitudes to the word marijuana, no matter what context it is used in.
    Last edit by Franjcamp on Nov 2, '10
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    a concern.

    no doctors are writing "prescriptions" for marijuana. they are actually writing recommendations for self medication. i have never seen a doctor write a prescription for marijuana, but if its asked for they will definately prescribe marinol, which is marijuana in pill form.

    does anybody understand the legal implications of prescriptions vs recommendations, and what that might mean for a registered nurse who has back pain, and does not want to be on any habit forming drugs such as vicodin and would much rather use marijuana, off the clock of course.
    PetERNurse likes this.
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    Quote from cherrybreeze
    When taken as prescribed and under a physician's care, I disagree with the "kill" statement.
    Michael Jackson was killed by medications taken as prescribed and under a Physicians care, so it's not foolproof. I've had patients who were prescribed large temazepam doses at home, when we continued the temazepam at the same dose we've noticed they are clearly over-sedated on that dose. The same it true for opiates. There's no reason to believe that a Doctor will never prescribe an inappropriate or unsafe dose.
    jelly221,RN likes this.
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    Quote from nateno
    a concern.

    no doctors are writing "prescriptions" for marijuana. they are actually writing recommendations for self medication. i have never seen a doctor write a prescription for marijuana, but if its asked for they will definately prescribe marinol, which is marijuana in pill form.

    does anybody understand the legal implications of prescriptions vs recommendations, and what that might mean for a registered nurse who has back pain, and does not want to be on any habit forming drugs such as vicodin and would much rather use marijuana, off the clock of course.
    This is the issue. An MD can RECOMMEND you use it for certain conditions, but not prescribe.
    Personally, I think there is much less harm done by smoking pot than drinking alcohol (if either are done in moderation). If alcohol is legal, I don't see why pot isn't (lets not forget how well prohibition worked before ).
    How many people get off work and have a few drinks? Do those people come into work drunk?
    I guess some people do go into work drunk...
    The point is, if you want to get high, you can do it with alcohol, and it is legal/socially acceptable. Not the same for pot, and I don't quite know why. BTW I do not smoke pot (did back in undergrad ). I just feel so many resources are wasted on enforcing anti-marijuana laws, which are ineffective at best.
    As far as medically using and RN testing positive, I don't think that would fly. DEA says no.
    nisteber and jelly221,RN like this.
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    Soft drugs when widely accessible seem to lose much of their appeal.
    An interesting observation, with some profound, possibly disturbing, implications, from this article:
    http://www.amsterdam.info/drugs/

    I will assume that the price of shrooms is significantly higher in the Netherlands. It isn't the drug/sensation, it is the anti-social behavior that is most generally attractive, at least among the Bohemians I know.

    An intoxicated practitioner is an intoxicated practitioner. The penalites (depending on # of offenses) are generally the same, FWIW. (Alc/pot)
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    Quote from Franjcamp
    I do know smoking pot makes you spacey, though people deny it, its true. So how does that effect job performance. On the other hand I would assume like any narcotic use a person builds up a certain amount of resistance to drugs over time.
    very true for both...
    that i wouldn't have any reservations with a chronic pain nurse, taking a percocet before work.
    tolerances do develop and one can be perfectly functional when taking a narcotic.
    but with weed?
    no way.
    it gets you high, and impairs judgment...no getting around it.
    so i wouldn't want any nurse smoking before going to work.
    (and i'm a former toker.)

    leslie
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    could not agree more!
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    Actually, in fact, people that use sleeping pills are linked to four times increased death rate and a thirty five percent increase in cancer rates. The American Cancer Society warns against their usage. I find it interesting that those of the opinion that cannabis is worse than a pill are the ones that have never tried cannabis.It's not what they think it is and yet, they hold on tight to their beliefs, which have no basis in fact or science.
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    So far, State Boards of Nursing still do not allow any positive test for TCH. there is no allowance for a medical mj card. I have uncontrolled migraines and I'm going insane, but I can't even try that option. I value my license too much. I would love to fight it, but how do we even try without jeapordizing our careers? I can get an rx for all kinds of pain killers, thank goodness imitrex works best. I don't take mind altering drugs while at work. If pain is that bad, go home! BUT.... I know nurses that have. I know people with chronic pain that don't seem altered when they take their pain meds. are they? I don't know. You test positive for day, but they could do a blood test to check levels to see if you are actually impaired at work.
    maybe someday this will make more sense. Out of all the drugs for pain control, anxiety, etc, I don't think MJ is the worst thing!


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